Salon has an article examining why Sanders, a 74 year old Democratic Socialist, is doing so well. Well, it seems a lot of his supporters are pissed at Democratic whores serving corporations and not people. What you are looking at is a rejection of the centrist politics and policies that have dominated Democratic politics since the time of Bill Clinton. Think of Sanders as an old testament prophet. Here the old time religion he is preaching is what Democrats used to be about before Democrats and the corporate media convinced America that Bob Doleâs health care plan is a giant socialist reach.
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âOld testament prophetâ actually quite an apt description - thereâs about the same amount of substance behind his rhetoric
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âOld testament prophetâ is actually a pretty apt description - thereâs about the same amount of substance behind his rhetoric
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No need for an apologyâŚhe was telling it exactly like it is!
In todayâs plutocracy and dominance by big money and the Republicans, when something is âpro-businessâ it is by definition anti-worker and anti-family and anti-America.
Bill and Hillary led the corporate whoresâŚand itâs time the corporate whores get booted from the Democratic party and sent to where they belongâŚthe Republican party. At least this way we actually have a 2 party (real choice) system. Plutocrats Vs Democracy.
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Arenât those Old Testament folks that ones that would stone you to death for eating shellfish and various other capital crimes made up by themselves?
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This is the rhetoric that makes me an âAnybody But Sandersâ person.
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The old testament he is calling us back to is the Democratic party as it existed in the time before the Clinton democrats went into a defensive crouch in the 1990s. The Democratic party used to stand for something. It used to be the party that tried to make life better for the masses.
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Heâs doing so well that heâs losing the delegate race, the overall vote tally race, and the nomination itself.
Your Bernie idolatry is both risible and pathetic.
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Actually, I have long believed this election is the âRevenge of the Disenfranchised White Guyâ election. We all are well aware of Trumpâs supporters and who they are, but no one ever talks about Sandersâs constituency. The biggest contingent? Young white males.
The difference between the Trump supporters and these young white male Sanders supporters (the âBernie Brosâ) is that they donât see themselves as racist or sexist. And I donât think they are in any overt sense (well, with the finger-waving, mansplaining that they do, they are certainly overtly sexist.) Instead itâs that subtle discrimination that people donât even recognize in themselves. âYou know, Jamal Washington doesnât seem like a good fit for this company. I canât quite put my finger on WHYâŚjust seemsâŚyou knowâŚa little âstreet.â Not quite our image. Sure he went to Harvard Law, butâŚI think this Mike Smith person is just a better candidate. No Harvard Law, but, a pretty decent state college.â
To these people, Sanders fits into their expectations of what a president is SUPPOSED to be (and was, traditionally): A wrinkled, white old man.
Not a person of color, not a fuckin WOMAN, but an old white guy.
âIt just seems RIGHT, ya know?â
I think itâs also why Iâve had conversations with hard core conservatives (no fooling) who said things like this: âIâve been a hard core conservative for thirty yearsâŚbut I really like what that Sanders fella is saying.â
NowâŚwhy would that be? On the Republican side, they got a mawkish clown, and one of those, you know, ethnics.
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When I read âold testament prophetâ I think âdelusional crazy manâ. I doubt thatâs what you wanted to say.
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Whereâs Bernieâs taxes? Seems like a simple request since he said there isnât anything in them since he isnât wealthy. Hillary released 8 years worth of complete tax records. Could it be it will show he is quite chummy with Wall Street after all.
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Why not presume to tell you what you think. You continually presume to think what everybody else thinks.
Itâs purity trolls like you who turn people off to Bernieâand why heâs losing.
You sound exactly like the members of the Tea Party.
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So according to that âlogicâ youâd vote for Trump or Cruz over Bernie.
Boy I thought it was pretty dumb when you were pushing Michael Bloomberg, but now it looks like youâve gone âall inâ on your Bernie-hatred.
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I agree with you. It set a very bad precedent. I didnât like the idea even when I liked and respected Sen. Sanders early on. (I have since lost any good will whatsoever I had for the man. I loathe the campaign that he is ârunning.â)
Iâm always glad when Al Sharpton runs, or a Chris Dodd runs, or a Carole Moseley Braun runs, even a Jim Webb runs. They add texture to the Party and to the presidential campaign, and illuminate issues that normally wouldnât make the spotlight if only left to the bigfoots. But they have all been loyal (or at least registered) Democrats.
Bernieâs just commandeered our hard-built infrastructure for his far-left agenda, for which he lacks the wherewithal to build on his own. Big mistake. I hope the Democratic Party never lets this happen again.
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Hillaryâs tax returns (and Billâs) since 1992 are all available online.
The dog ate Bernieâs returns.
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I use the word âsorryâ all the time in contexts other than apologies. Paul Songâs tweet was not an apology. It was a double down. A âsorry not sorryâ.
And his speech was prepared. This was not an off the cuff remark. You want to tell me Bernieâs staff didnât review what those speakers were going to say in advance?
Sorry (not sorry) Bernie. You suck. I will walk over broken glass at this point to see Hillary Clinton humiliate you in every contest left to happen in this primary.
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Youâre certainly welcome to think that Bernie running as a third party candidate would have been far better for everyone. Why donât you lead the crusade to convince him to do so? Hopefully, youâll be a great success and we can all watch how it turns out.
And I donât get the facade reference. Youâre saying that people argued that having debate and competition in the Dem race was just a ruse to give people an excuse to complain that she pandered to the left and then shifted center for the general? WTF? Put down the box and step away from the tinfoil. Seriously. Your conspiracy thinking is just an elaborate way of telling me I donât actually believe what I just said I believe and that I actually believe something else, something nefarious, totally irrational and bizarre. Sorry, but thereâs no conspiracy. I stand by the idea that having Clinton and Sanders go at it was ultimately better than having Clinton look like an entitled princess, never get challenged, never show her chops, never have to answer hard questions, deal with her own or her opponentâs mistakes or show poise in the face of attack. Is the friction between the two candidatesâ supporters an unfortunate counterbalance to that benefit? Yep, but thatâs on us as their supporters as much or more than itâs on the candidates.
As I said, timeâs past for big boy/girl pants here. Sheâs about to win, itâs almost impossible that Bernie can pull out an upset and thereâs no reason for the debate to drift off into spiteful rancor just because shit got heated when the contestâs outcome was still less certain.
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Of course he is going to lose, but you donât seem interested in examining why he is doing so much better than he should. The answer is easy if you open your eyes. He is calling on the Democratic party to be the Democratic party and not a den of cowardly whores toeing the line for their corporate sponsors. Read the Salon article, it might open your closed mind.
Bernie Sanders has effectively lost the nomination at this point and his supporters are becoming more strident and ugly in their rhetoric. A lot of his supporters arenât going to vote for Hillary Clinton anyway. So, frankly, I hope tonight she smacks the old coot upside the head and gives him a taste of his own medicine.
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