Discussion: Sanders Disavows Surrogate's 'Corporate Democratic Whores' Remark (VIDEO)

Much less being the dictator behind the Lockerbie bombing, blowing up Americans in a German disco, etc.

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Shorter Berniebros: Bernie’s brand of snake oil will solve everything and that means we don’t have to talk about any of your siily problems. You don’t get to tell us who to vote for since we are just going to demand that the world do the right thing and everybody will do what we tell them to. And if they don’t, why we are going to hold our breathe and turn blue!

Nothing mythical about it. If less than 0.05% of Nader voters in Florida voted for Gore instead, Florida never would have been in courts to begin with and Gore would have won the electoral votes in addition to the undisputed fact he won the popular vote.

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Maybe Sanders intent is not that. But more than a few Sanders supporters actually say that is their goal and are proud of it as they see it is a corrupt institution that needs to die and be replaced/reborn as some new pure left/populist party.

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Well that and his proposals are not well thought through and he has a history of being extremely ineffectual in Congress. Granted he’s pretty good at smears and sloganeering.

Sure thing. I don’t discount at all the access to voter rolls. That’s not a trivial thing, and it is there through great expense and work across the country by more than 50 state Dem parties, none of which Bern has ever lifted a finger to help.

And as for debates with Sec Clinton – CNN might invite some fringe Greenie to a debate for the general, but the Dems aren’t consenting to inviting some backbench independent to a primary debate. Especially when they have the likes of Jim Webb and whassiss O’Malley challenging the Hill. That’s not small thing.

And yes, I take the Bern’s rhetoric and actions – belittling the President and head of the part, lying about the frontrunning candidate with attendant baseless character smears, vowing to undo every accomplishment and piece of progress we have won in the past eight years – to be on a mission to destroy my party. He may have stated as much, but I’m not inclined to go looking for a link. Perhaps you have a different interpretation of those statements and actions.

If so, fine. It’s a matter of opinion and interpretation, after all.

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I don’t believe that, do you?

No, You-Are-Off-The-Freakin’-Wall no might be involved.
There is something lacking in your basic discourse, like respect and common manners.

How the flop do you justify yapping at people that you don’t know a damned thing about, to wake up because we just don’t know what is possible.
You are on dream street dude. All of us here have a very good idea of what is really possible and what is pie in the sky horseshit on a triscuit.

Also, I can imagine a lot, in fact, I’m imagining myself tweaking your beak, twisting your ear and sending you to time out right this moment.

Insulting people isn’t hip or some new thing and neither are progressive values or liberalism, in fact, we invented the American style and are still perfecting it.

If you want more, have at it but don’t demean the people that have been in the fight for at least half a friggin’ century.

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Yes maybe, she can pick off the conservative faction that loves war and military interventions. We’ll call them the bloodlust faction.

Whether Clinton or Sanders should win, there will be military intervention somewhere.

If a republican wins, there will be that and more.

I actually read the prophets of the Jewish bible, and this comparison isn’t fair to them.

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Thank you for the information. Would he have included this language in his written version? Or put another way is his normal mode this ā€˜colorful’ or is this mode of attack just something that happens when he goes off the rails?

There is a chasm between defensive military actions and premptive ones. Clinton seems to favor the latter. Bernie will not squander the lives of our soldiers and our economic well being to further fulfill the neocon agenda and line the pockets of the war profiteers and Wall Street banks.

Try harder and put some thought into it next time.

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Then why is he losing?

We don’t need to wait. He can’t even handle some relatively innocuous criticism from other Democrats.

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That’s an idea!

Seems to? That’s your opinion. You have no idea what she’ll do. That’ s your problem.

Many of us trust her judgment and experience, especially her time as SoS.

So stop with your ball-gazing, okay?

Word.

Besides, what @addicted4444 said in another thread. It’s worth quoting here again.

I’ve never understood how supposedly seasoned journalists can take comparisons of Sanders’ current national favorability vs Clinton’s seriously. You are essentially comparing the peak favorability of someone who has barely ever even been mentioned by the opposing side (and is frankly rooting for him in the primaries) vs someone who the Republicans have been campaigning against since the mid 90s.

And the Republican smear machine is ridiculously effective. Consider that in 2004 they managed to make a purple heart winner look like like he was a coward and made a draft dodger who hasnt spent a day in combat appear a hero. Although I guess wearing jumpsuits in front of Mission Accomplished signs on an aircraft carrier for a photo op counts for something.

I’m so tired, SO tired, of seeing his supporters and the candidate himself citing again and again matchup and favorability polls at this point to claim he is more electable, despite the fact that he is losing, he lost key swing states (VA, FL, OH, NV, NC), he has failed to build a broad coalition. If they are proud that he has transformed from a virtually unknown candidate to a challenger to an ā€œestablishmentā€ one, that’s totally fine and that’s such an accomplishment. But don’t conveniently ignore the fact he is still unknown.

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look up

Way to keep that head in the sand.

Independents are going to decide this election and they hate Hillary.