Discussion: Sanders Campaign Raised $5.2 Million Since New Hampshire

system1 · February 10, 2016, 7:59pm

Discussion for article #245850

saylen · February 10, 2016, 8:09pm

Love him or hate him, the guy has a following, and it’s not just hipster douche bros in their twenties arguing on Facebook.

lockheedkeynesian · February 10, 2016, 8:16pm

Open Secrets dot org: Obama and Romney spent over $1.2 Billion in 2012- not counting outside money from PACS and the DNC and RNC. All together it was over $2.5 Billion

$1.2B > $5.2M

funny aside: if you made a dollar a second, you would become a millionaire in 12 days.

At that same rate, it would take you over 32 years to become a billionaire.

(don’t tell Bernie- we’ll never hear the end of it…)

humpback · February 10, 2016, 8:20pm

But mostly.

cali_man · February 10, 2016, 8:25pm

Go for it TPM…keep pumping up the new McGovern

tesla · February 10, 2016, 8:50pm

Not in my county. It’s mostly the politically involved, including a former mayor who abandoned her Republican affiliation of 45 years and registered as a Democrat specifically to vote for Bernie in the primaries, an Ivy League graduate as smart as Christopher Hitchens ever was, a former city council member, a well-traveled and accomplished woman in her seventies, the owners of a successful cafe, and others of similar stature. Plus some very savvy young members of the community who are from far hipster and quite dedicated to the issue of equality for all.

stephen_maturin · February 10, 2016, 8:52pm

Couldn’t he just make a couple of speeches?

I hear they pay well.

lockheedkeynesian · February 10, 2016, 8:53pm

Bunch a dudes with man buns and yoga pants

boidster · February 10, 2016, 8:57pm

[quote=“lockheedkeynesian, post:3, topic:32671, full:true”]
Open Secrets dot org: Obama and Romney spent over $1.2 Billion in 2012- not counting outside money from PACS and the DNC and RNC. All together it was over $2.5 Billion

$1.2B > $5.2M[/quote]

Apples-to-apples: Obama’s best week in all of 1Q 2012 earned him just $3.9M. Bernie just blew that away in a couple of days.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/weekly.php?type=Q112&cand1=N00009638&cand2=N00000286&cycle=2012

boisdevache · February 10, 2016, 9:02pm

The thing I wonder about the Sanders movement is whether it will translate to anything else going forward. Are the people being motivated by his stump speeches going out and getting involved in the political process so that even if/when his campaign ends they can keep moving the ball forward? It sounds like maybe so in your county, but I suspect it’s not the same everywhere else.

I’m not one to criticize, hardly being politically involved myself, but all I’ve seen re: Sanders is bumper stickers and requests for $3 (or more!). Oh, and rising levels of angst in comment sections now that people perceive him as a threat.

lockheedkeynesian · February 10, 2016, 9:05pm

Dig that. Bernie is on fire. He has more mo now than ever. Lightning in a bottle. Rocket in his pocket. Vegas, Baby. See Mo Green and get paid.

sniffit · February 10, 2016, 9:10pm

Looks like ~~Coakley~~ Clinton is really blowing it so far. What a joke. I’ll get right behind Bernie without any qualms whatsoever if she can’t justify posthaste my initial decision to support her and a decision to stick with her. I think he has less of a chance in the general, but I’m not going to stick around banging my head against the wall while her campaign flops around like a dying fish. Might as well add to the momentum where it exists.

austin_dave · February 10, 2016, 9:20pm

I think the Coakley reference is very close. I really think so.

stephen_maturin · February 10, 2016, 9:41pm

You can’t do that.
You gotta believe that the next ten primaries are what’s going to settle this once and for all

Forget the poor showing with women overall and the 52-48 minority vote. This is John Sununu’s New Hampshire voting here where they’re right next door to Vermont so they’re really the same thing politically.

Put your money on the South and the black and Latino votes because they hate Bernie with his message of economic inequality. Bill will be charming and work his magic.

boidster · February 10, 2016, 9:57pm

Well, NH was pretty much a given. I’ll get more concerned about Hillary’s campaign after Nevada and S.C., if she doesn’t win them. Slight concern if she goes 1 out of 2, major concern if she’s 0-fer.

boidster · February 10, 2016, 10:05pm

Well that’s pretty thin gruel, IMO, but alright. Is your argument that it was more difficult for Obama to get donations in 2012 because people had to mail them in or something? The numbers are not “online only” donations, so I’m not sure where you’re going with that.

Obama did have near to $200M total raised by the end of Q1 2012, so Bernie ($75M so far) has some catching up to do.

professorpoopypants · February 10, 2016, 10:15pm

Clever, but increasingly inaccurate. Bernie won with almost every single demographic group in New Hampshire, including beating Hillary by about 11 points among women – not just young women, but women as a whole.

professorpoopypants · February 10, 2016, 10:48pm

Of course all that same technology is equally available to Hillary, but she hasn’t had anywhere near the success with grassroots fundraising – online or otherwise – as Bernie has. But as to the Bernie - Barack comparison, it’s certainly a fair point. Nonetheless, Bernie’s fundraising success is still quite an extraordinary feat. As was his historic victory in New Hampshire, which was by the largest margin since JFK (despite plenty of other “neighbor state candidates” in the meantime).

professorpoopypants · February 10, 2016, 11:39pm

I am becoming more and more convinced that the most fundamental problem with Hillary’s overall message is that while Bernie is telling an inspirational story about America, in which everyday Americans are the protagonists, Hillary comes off as basically telling an inspirational story about Hillary, in which America just happens to be the setting, and everyday Americans the extras. An oversimplification, to be sure, but a rather large kernel of truth there, IMHO.

professorpoopypants · February 11, 2016, 1:06am

That’s one way to look at it, and not an unreasonable one given a lot of his rhetoric. But there’s also a strong message that fundamental change is achievable, which lends an air of deep-seated optimism…at least to those who are inclined to see it that way.

But my main point was that it often seems like Bernie is telling a story about America, while Hillary is telling a story about Hillary. Again, an oversimplification, to be sure. But one that captures some of the essential dynamics between the two candidacies, and is an aspect of the race that Team Hillary would be wise to reflect on as they try to improve their message and appeal, not just for the primary, but for the general election.

I’ve been making this point for a while now, but I noticed that last night some commentator on one of the networks made very much the same observation when comparing Hillary and Bernie’s speeches last night. Maybe those of us who perceive it this way are just wrong, seeing a pattern that isn’t really there. To me it seems kind of glaringly obvious…but I am well aware that I am not an unbiased observer.