Discussion: Sanders' 2020 Ambitions May Be On Shaky Ground Amid Allegations

Sanders having the gall to take on Queen Hillary in the primary is the real “abuse” he’s being acused of. Now, her former courtiers are miffed that Sanders is the most popular politician in America, while Hillary, well, isn’t.

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Last I heard Hillary is not running in 2020. So comparisons between the two of them make no sense to me. For me, the current question is are the problems with how Bernie ran his campaign disqualifying for the office?

For me they are.

You tell me who is corrupt.

Bernie’s wife had big wonderful plans for Burlington College. She took a fancy salary and bought a wonderful campus they couldn’t afford from a local Catholic institution and when her anticipated growth in enrollment didn’t occur the college went bankrupt and the land ended up in the hands of a local developer who was a friend. Meanwhile, expected donations were exaggerated in the documents used to obtain the loan to buy the land in the first place. But we will probably never know because many of the relevant records disappeared in a suspicious fire.

The local Republicans put the FBI up to investigating this. My guess is that it was simply bad judgment but who knows?

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Well, this is holding up well for you after the Gabbard announcement yesterday /sarcasm

Well, you know, good looking women tend to get away with pretty much anything. But then there are those who spend their best years chasing after losers. But that’s another story for another day. BTW, how many days do we have left?

GOP Troll.

Nope. Back in the primaries I checked out the facts. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. So check your data. Got most of this from Vermont papers.

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You actually believe that shit? What have you been smoking?

Even if it’s all true–unlikely–it pales compared to what Hillary did with the Clinton foundation (shaking down foreign governments for donations while she was secretary of state) and of course what Trump does every day (everything crooked you can think of and many things you can’t).

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Between Trump and the local skunk, I’d vote for the skunk. Between Bernie and the Democrats running for the Democratic nomination most of the others are better choices.

I’d stopped following this stuff but found this when I was looking for sources to back up my memory of what happened.

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From a long time admirer, NO…

Bull Phucky… you are the staff you surround yourself with. If you are a punk then so are they, etc, etc, etc.

“…the political future of the man who has reshaped Democratic politics in recent years…”

HUH???

Oh, dear no! What freaking flowery hyperbole is THIS?

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NO, he did not. Another shady millionaire screeching about billionaires! Go AWAY Bernie the Fraud!!

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I remember Sanders comments when someone said that Hillary would be the first woman POTUS. Sanders said so what he would be the first Jewish POTUS. I felt that he belittled Hillary and women who supported her by making too little of having a woman democratic nominee for the first time in history. It wasn’t like Hillary wasn’t 100 times more qualified than Sanders to be POTUS. I felt that Sanders campaign was very sexist to Hillary. I still feel that way today.

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Since Sanders almost beat Clinton in the primaries that must mean Martin O’Malley almost beat Sanders in the primaries.

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Lots of much better politicians with same message. So, yes, it IS about the messenger in Bernie’s case.

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We Democrats eat our dead. Perhaps, that is as it should be.
Before crucifying me, please hear me out.

I’ve been a Democrat practically all my life. Hell, my grandmother and I went with wet sponges in our pockets so we could glue campaign stickers to telephone polls, (and occasionally on peoples’ windshield if they were Republicans), when I was SIX. I was a poll watcher for George McGovern, knocked on doors for Bernie, and cast a write-in ballot for him in the General. For me, the Bernie Sanders ship of state has sailed, as has Hillary’s. I believe now, Elizabeth Warren is a whole fleet of ships. She is the country’s future, and its salvation.

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