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Good for them. I was always sort of dismayed that most newspaper reporters, often belonging to a union of one sort or another, never spent nearly enough time reporting on the greater union movement in this country, at least without some dig attached. So long as they got their representation and their own union rep. they didnāt seem all too concerned about anyone elseās lack of representation in the work force around the country. Less time is spent reporting on labor and unions in any sort of positive light, than almost anything else the media coversā¦and has been a long ignored thing for some time. We talk a lot now about income inequality, but less discussed are the ways to rectify the problemā¦which includes imo worker protections that unions have always fought for and succeeded in getting for workers in major industries.
Also the corporate news media on tv has most of its people represented by a unionā¦but fuck if the public gets any attention on ways to form a union in other walks of life. They just donāt cover that much anymore.
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Will this make their articles less annoying?
I like Salon. I skip the fluff and always go straight to Digby. Lots of good writers there. Also a lot of silly psychobabble and true confessions of sorts I can do without.
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The articles here at TPM on any given day are far more annoying that anything at salon.com. Unless you enjoy big fat steaming piles of Fox news articles and stories from right wing world.
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Joan Walsh is my go to writer at Salon.
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Butā¦butā¦donāt you like steaming piles FOX news on the increasingly tabloid TPM? In all seriousness though (not really) I do wonder why the hard shift toward the meaningless happened. Is it just because sensational BS generates more clicks?
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The only thing I canāt stand about Salon is their āautomatic refreshā if you stay on the front page too long and havenāt moved onto reading a story in particular within a certain short timeframe. It sets you right back to the top of the page. They had a pause thingy at the top of the page for a very short time, but then they went back to that stupid reload and refresh thing they do. Now, thatās the only thing I find annoying about their site.
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āWeāre especially proud to work for a media organization that has championed progressive values for nearly twenty years,ā Salon staff wrote in a press release.
Iām sorry, but if is true that Salon.com āhas championed progressive values for nearly twenty yearsāā¦what the need to unionize is all about? I meanā¦are the higher up at Salon.com exploiting in any way, shape or form their employees?
Cops are union, so are firemen, no one seems to question that.
I was raised in a two union family and the benefits are normal life to me. Medical, Dental, vacation pay, sick leave, overtime, collective representation.
What is supposedly bad about that? Paying dues makes sense and literally the idea that if you wanted to get ahead, you had to pay your dues, was dead on the money.
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i think so, and contrived pop culture opinion nonsense harvested from sheltered millennials costs a lot less than journalism.
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Great news. And, fortunately for them, theyāre a private union, so when (if) the Supreme Court guts public unions next year, theyāll still be protected.
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Strangely missing from this story is any mention of when TPM staff will unionize.
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Iād agree that sensational BS generates more clicks, and even as weāre bitching, weāre clicking. At the same time Iām into big city mostly left-leaning newspapers which I read pretty thoroughly almost every day either in print or on the Web. So Iām informed through them. That in turn increases my exasperation with the menu of junk we get here. But I enjoy engaging with all the wits who post here and their wisdom and their smarts.
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i make sure i have every adblock extension turned on when i visit tpm to reciprocate tpmās respect for its readers.
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Are they annoying? I never read them.
Ah, now I remember why I never go there. The only thing more annoying than autorefresh is autoplay of video or audio clips. Itās getting harder to find sites that let you turn off autoplay as a default. Shame on them all.
They have ads? Iāve never noticed. (Except for the sponsored articles.)
Now if I could just tell the consider replyingā¦ announcement box to shut the fuck up. Why would I want to aggregate replies on completely different viewpoints and subjects? If people donāt want to bother with my short posts, they surely wonāt want to deal with longer, aggregated ones.
i specifically block all sponsored articles too. and i donāt think iāve ever seen the āconsider replying announcement boxā, where is that for you?
Directly above the comment box. Itās a hideous color, sort of a salmonābrick-red amalgam. It has a close button and text. the text whines about making it easier, or more pleasant, or some such bullshit, for people to read if you lump all your replies to multiple posts (which may be completely unconnected in tenor or purport, after all) into one gigundous post rather than posting short responses to each of them.
Itās a matter of style and taste, and I think itās not that often that multiple posts are related closely enough to make the approach desirable or even useful as a rule. If they can have an algorithmic determination that I may have posted enough in a thread to want to follow their suggestion, surely they could also determine from my multiple rejections of their intrusive message that I donāt consider their interruption helpful, and that they should just shut up.
Frankly, although I have on occasion used the multiple-reply-in-a-post method, I am less inclined to do so, now that theyāve decided their system knows better than I how to make a point. Itās especially galling because often they will post multiple closely related or even simply sequentially modified articles on a single issue, so that comments on the earlier posts are not available to readers of the later ones. The structure of this site is frustrating enough, and amateurish enough, that I am infuriated when I am told by a machine program how better to structure my own contributions. They apparently have no conception of irony. And no shame.