Discussion: Ryan On Millions Losing Care: 'Never Going To Win A Coverage Beauty Contest'

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This is what happens when the dog finally grabs the car it is chasing.

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“I would suggest to Martha that what our desire is, is to make sure certain you are the individual that is able to select the physician and the treatment that you desire for yourself, not that the government dictates to you,” Price said, responding to a woman who stood to lose thousands of dollars in government health care subsidies.

Hey, I can select any physician and treatment that I want, but if I can’t afford to pay for it, that choice is meaningless.

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Oh FFS Just come out and say it
We really don’t give a fuck about the poors
We just want to AynRand their ass.
More for the rich
That’s all that counts
Your lack of compassion and understanding is beyond the pale
No one will ever, ever confuse you with a compassionate human being

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Yes, you imperious SOB what’s a few million people? Sometimes I wish hell existed in the afterlife. The GOP has illustrated yet again that it exists in the here and now.

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millions of people would lose health insurance under the GOP’s proposed health care bill

Ryan: “That is the plan, yes.”

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‘Never Going To Win A Coverage Beauty Contest’

With that nose and hairline, you’ll never win any type of beauty contest.

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Yea, Martha, you lazy sick thing…

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LOL. That is literally a contradiction to what Trump tweeted yesterday.

Trump - ACA repeal "will end in a beautiful picture!”

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“insurance is not really the end goal here.”

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I was so wrong.
I thought Ryan and friends were doing a body and vote count to see what they could get away with.
They just don’t give a fuck what happens to anyone.

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“If the government says, ‘Thou shall buy our health insurance,’ the government estimates are going to say people will comply and it will happen. And when you replace that with, ‘We’re going to have a free market and you buy what you want to buy,’ they’re going to say not nearly as many people are going to do that,” Ryan continued. “That’s just going to happen. And so you’ll have those coverage estimates. We assume that’s going to happen. That’s not our goal. Our goal is not to show a pretty piece of paper that says, ‘We’re mandating great things for Americans.’

Because, Paulie, the needs of the many outweigh the greed of a few.

And you’re admitting the high uncertainty and risk of a private market approach. What you’re not saying is that all that risk will be ultimately be socialized.

Krugman was always right. You’re a fraud and a charlatan.

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Is Martha the Martha from the NYT article, the woman who voted for Trump, but now is going to lose her health coverage support? It’s not clear.

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“We always know, you’re never going to win a coverage beauty contest when it’s free market versus government mandates,”

And let me tell you, when thousands of people start dying as a direct result of having the rug yanked out from under them and losing their health care coverage, they for sure aren’t winning any beauty contests.

A rotting corpse is a 1 on Donald Trumps sliding scale of beauty.

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It’s kind of like how you treat a toddler, you let them suffer the ramifications of what they do (within reason for the toddler). I’m not defending Ryan, but I also don’t think he has much choice here either in terms of his caucus. It’s his job to get out there. At least he’s starting to admit to the obvious. Now, his caucus has to suck that up and deal with it too.

My favorite comment was MSNBC asking Jim Jordan for an example of a totally free market system that actually worked anywhere else and he had…nothing.

Keep holding their feet to the fire and make them admit this stuff over and over.

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So we’re choosing instead to look at what we think is more important to ordinary people: Can they afford to go to the doctor?” he added later.

Trump: People covered under the law “can expect to have great health care. It will be in a much simplified form. Much less expensive and much better.”

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I think it is the same woman. The exact quote isn’t in this article, but her story has gotten a lot of attention in the news.

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Fun Fact: Ayn Rand died penniless and lived her last years on public assistance.

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In the days when Stalin was Commissar of Munitions, a meeting was held of the highest ranking Commissars, and the principal matter for discussion was the famine then prevalent in the Ukraine. One official arose and made a speech about this tragedy — the tragedy of having millions of people dying of hunger. He began to enumerate death figures … Stalin interrupted him to say: “If only one man dies of hunger, that is a tragedy. If millions die, that’s only statistics.”

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Under her real name, Alisa Rosenbaum

Another fun fact. Dorothy Parker on Atlas Shrugged: “This is not a novel to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great vigor!”

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