Unless they become totally convinced they will lose power. Then they will do anything to keep their seats. At the moment, they are not worried enough.
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I know the feeling. The level of rage I feel when I see both of them is unbelievable, but in particular that smarty-ass smirk on RAyn’s face sends my blood pressure through the roof.
I am going to love it when he’s booted from his Speaker’s chair next year. As he will be.
I would be even happier if he gets completely fired. Which will only happen when the people of Janesville realize how much he has screwed them over. Of course, by then it may be too late.
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The reason this is bad us because he thinks he’s helping
I agree with that. If the ACA is shot down, the areas that some insurers are leaving are going to remain with nothing. States like WI, TX, IN will be offered junk insurance policies because they’re not being subsidized, the population is very sick and healthy people will just go about their business. As Charles Gaba points out, you can’t count the states that are being offered the junk ins. policies as actual insurance and the CBO isn’t going to score them that way either. Other states, mostly the Blue states, will most likely stay with what remains of the ACA
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He’s probably right, since the “healthcare bill” is just cover for a tax cut and there’s no way any of them want to avoid a tax cut for the rich.
Besides, who really is clinging to the idea that the Senate is going to do anything but rush through their version of this bill and fast track a conference committee? Again, this is about a tax cut and will not die in the Senate.
And if anyone is laboring under the pathetic delusion that the Senate is more deliberative, more cultivated and more responsive than their bratty House counterparts, didja see the shameful display yesterday at the Clapper/Yates hearing? They don’t care about Russia. They don’t care about the flagrant violations of interests and obvious corruption. Who the hell honestly thinks they’ll suddenly be deliberate and careful about this?
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Turtle: We have been dreaming of repealing ObamaCare for a century now. We will do it in less than a day.
“Hopefully it takes a month or two…”
Wow. This deranged sewer rat is really whistling “Dixie” isn’t he? He knows damn well that nothing is coming out of the Senate for months and months, and no Senate/House reconciliation bill will get by the Tea Baggers and “moderates” alike in his caucus. Paul Ryan is my least favorite American by a country mile!
Still, there is a great possibility real pain is coming for millions of Americans who only have themselves to blame.
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And hopefully Trump-Russia indictments take even less time!
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“The insurers are pulling out very, very quickly.”
Coinus interruptus?
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McConnell is feverishly trying to decide which of the balls he has in the air he will allow to drop first
Is it better to drag it out past 2018 elections (with the possibility of people screaming every day about what the Republicans are doing to healthcare)
Is it better to rip the bandaid quickly? That gets the tax cut to their donors, which is a plus, but people may start to actually suffer before the coming elections
How about pass something quickly but keep it from going into effect? Then the insurers will start to hightail it out of the more compromised markets which contain a lot of their supporters
As multiple posters have suggested, it is really the tax cut to the wealthy plus the bonus of removing everything in Obama’s legacy that is driving this thing - healthcare is seldom even discussed. The difference between conservatives and liberals is liberals look at facts and make conclusions, conservatives have conclusions and then they to find the facts that support them.
My guess - the Senate will pass something with slightly less stench by the end of the year, make the tax cuts reach as far back as they can, and delay most of the really onerous provisions from coming into play until early 2019
Edited to add: One thing I know for sure personally, my wife who just turned 58 and has some major existing conditions (nothing “pre” about them) and is already paying in excess of $1000 per month for her insurance alone is not going to benefit from whatever they choose to do.
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“The legislation should not take that long. Hopefully it takes a month or two to get it through the Senate,” Ryan said. “Hopefully it takes a month or two. Because we need to give people the ability to plan. The insurers are pulling out very, very quickly. And we need to show the insurers there’s a better system coming. Stay in the market.”
Sounds positively Trumpian. Strange to bring up insurers staying in the market since the party’s goal to drive insurers out so the market collapses.
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You simply can’t trust a traitor.
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I just love that that word is from the French. Makes me want to call it the Freedom satchel charge.
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Ryan is stating this to keep Trump’s base happy about the appeal, but can’t he hear that there is such a small appetite for what the House did? Has Ryan entered the Trump bubble of denial?
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Some day soon, I hope to hear a reprise of this line from The Godfather:
“Paulie?? You won’t see him no more…”
Ryan is an absolute piece of garbage, masquerading as a human being. There is not a hot enough place in Hell for scum like him.
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More rAyn bullshit. The thing that came out of the House has a long, long path before it’s signed. To the Senate, back to either House or Senate, and on and on. Also notice how it’s no longer The Affordable Care Act, but American Health Care Act. Ergo, no longer affordable.
@epicurus Now you’ve done it, and I’m thinking of cannolis.
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Leave the gun.
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Sen McConnell must convince his klan they must accept the fact that health insurance is a right and no longer a privilege! Once they grasp that single concept, we can move forward. The American People will NO LONGER accept LESS!
So swallow the repeal pill and work up the COURAGE as former President Obama said so eloquently the other night, and do what is RIGHT!
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Between now and the end of the year there will be a lot of recesses, July 4th, the entire month of August, Thanksgiving and Christmas breaks, at the very least. There simply is not enough time to get to work on anything. Next year no one does anything because of looming mid-term elections. It’s like Paulie said and a press confrontation. “For now Obamacare is the law of the land.” We can only hope that it doesn’t become more burdensome for families like yourselves.
“This process will not be quick or simple or easy, but it must be done,” McConnell said in a floor speech Monday.
McConnell would love nothing more than to be the one who delivers the final stroke against Obamacare. He hopes we, the public, will tire and won’t call, protest and fight to keep our healthcare intact.