For once, he’s absolutely right. There is much more to the story than mere numbers. Such as the lives that will be ended or made more miserable if either the House or Senate bill were to become law.
Despicable lying sociopath is lying frantically.
“What they are basically saying at the Congressional Budget Office is if you are not going to force people to buy Obamacare — if you are not going to force people to buy something they don’t want — then they won’t buy it,” Ryan said. “So it’s not that people are getting pushed off a plan, it’s that people will choose not to buy something they don’t like or want.”
Two points:
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Nobody likes or wants to buy health insurance, but anyone paying attention knows what without health insurance, an accident or unexpected diagnosis can put you at serious risk of personal bankruptcy. Insurance becomes affordable to everyone if everyone has to get into the pool, not just the sickest (and we never know when we will become sick).
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Remember that more than 3/4 of Americans of voting age chose not to vote for someone that they didn’t like or want for President. So, can we get a CBO recommendation to get rid of Trump?
“People should be able to forego their own personal healthcare coverage, increase their future burden to society, and increase the current risks and costs of those who cannot indulge that choice.” AKA the “more for me, but really less for me, and also fuck you” plan.
Cool story.
Yes. The rest of the story:
Grandma cutting up her pills and dining on cat food.
Cancer patients dying because they can’t get care.
Women getting breast cancer because Planned Parenthood was defunded.
People with HIV going to full-blown AIDS & dying because their meds are no longer affordable.
Emergency rooms overwhelmed with people seeking catastrophic care because they lack basic preventable care.
There is SOOOO much more to the story.
If it’s too expensive, they won’t buy it. So the numbers will go down.
“So it’s not that people are getting pushed off a plan, it’s that people will choose not to buy something they don’t like or want.”
I'm OK with that, with one stipulation needing written into the law. If you are offered coverage* and your income is X% above the poverty line, and decline to insure yourself, public and private hospitals and physicians are legally permitted to refuse you treatment, with immunity from criminal or civil suits for doing so.
*At premiums all agree are reasonable and affordable (yeah, a dreamworld, I know).“Look, I have always had my own complaints about methodologies and score keeping,” he continued. “We all have our preferences and our opinions on these things. But it is important that we have a scorekeeper. We can always complain about the nature of the score. I think their coverage numbers — there’s more to the story than what the number implies. But having said that, it’s important that we have a referee.”
The Triumvirate
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McConnell
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Trump
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Ryan
Let’s also talk about how this horseshit raises taxes… my property taxes for our local county hospital district stabilized under Obamacare – because people had insurance and could see a general practitioner for the first time in their lives.
Now that we’re pushing people back into emergency rooms (hey, they have access!), my taxes are going to go up to pay for it. Don’t get me wrong – I believe in paying taxes. It’s my obligation as a citizen. I just object to their use in the most inefficient (and cruel) way to deliver health care… especially since this is really just a tax giveaway to the ultra-wealthy.
Sorry, Ryan this is not a healthcare bill, but a tax cuts bill. There is no way to defend this turd, no way.
His methodology – measure the size of the tax cut and the campaign donations. Easy-peasy. Done.
Less coverage of what he says, especially airtime, and more analysis.
Can we also get rid of car and homeowners insurance? Also I don’t like mayonnaise, and often it is included on sandwiches without my choice. Can we get rid of mayo? Except for in tuna salad, which I like. Also, my kids go to public school, but I don’t choose to pay property taxes. If I stop paying, can my kids still go to school some days? Like if there’s a big assembly, or field day? Oh, one sec, I have a headache. Off to the ER!
“Yeah, there’s more to it – it’s not just about screwing poor people out of health insurance and killing them – it’s also about stealing from them as well to give massive tax breaks to the wealthiest of the wealthy, too. Like, duh,” Ryan continued.
I believe this Ryan plan on that is for you to pull your lazy librul ass up by your boot straps and open your own sandwich shop.
Duh.
McConnell surprisingly did
Yep, there are 22 million “other” stories out there, Eddie…
“What they are basically saying at the Congressional Budget Office is if you are not going to force people to buy Obamacare — if you are not going to force people to buy something they don’t want — then they won’t buy it,” Ryan said. “So it’s not that people are getting pushed off a plan, it’s that people will choose not to buy something they don’t like or want.”
It’s so easy to come up with a sharp rejoinder to this. But then one thinks,Why bother? It’s not like it’s an actual argument–something that Ryan believes or that would in reality convince anyone else who gave it two seconds thought. It’s just space-filler, words thrown together to give the appearance of an actual position so that the media will report that there is a “debate” and that “both sides” are making their case, etc. etc. and the Great Uninformed American Population can feel free to ignore. “What’s the difference? Alls I know is that no one in Warshington is looking out for guys like me.”
Talk about “hoaxes.”