Discussion: Ruth Bader Ginsburg Apologizes For Criticizing Trump

RUTHIE why did you do it?

That depends on how long it takes the Trump University fraud cases to reach the Supreme Court. They will eventually since Trump will lose them and he will not give up on them until the last appeal is exhausted. If she is planning to retire before this happens then she won’t hear a case involving him (unless there is a Trump v. Clinton to complement Bush v. Gore). Otherwise …

Yeah, the amount of people calling RGB ā€œspinelessā€ or a ā€œwussā€ is really disheartening.

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For everyone with short memories, do you recall the criticism that Justice Alito got for mouthing the words ā€œnot trueā€ in response to President Obama’s criticism of the Citizens United decision in his State of the Union address in 2011? The Justices live and work in a self-created bubble that is supposed to insulate them from crass political concerns, as if they were the Vestal Virgins or monks. While that has always been a fiction (one that we members of the public treat as if it were real, as shown by the howls when we get a nakedly partisan decision such as Bush v. Gore or Shelby County), it’s also a tradition with the Court. And the Supreme Court takes its own traditions and its reputation for being above dirty electoral politics seriously (most of the time–see the former parenthesis for the most obvious exceptions). So it’s not surprising that RBG issued a mea culpa for expressing her opinions on politics; the apology is to her fellow Justices, rather than to you or me. And definitely not to Trump.

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Yep, a wuss. She had no reason to apologize, but after being kneed by Donald ā€œthe draft dodging coward and asshole loserā€ Trump, she grabbed her forelock, bowed and said ā€œyassuh, your highness!ā€

Except she didn’t really apologize.

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That’s true until it’s not. Remember how it felt like Obama was in a free fall after the first debate? He wasn’t. The election never changed, the polling never changed really. Sure it moved around according to events, but his campaign has repeatedly commented how remarkably stagnant the election remained. Bad polling the week before a convention, polling which still has her ahead, isn’t cause for great concern. Nobody has even announced their VP picks, there hadn’t been a convention or a debate. And last I checked minorities still get a say in this election and we’re being badly under polled.

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RBG originally spoke the truth, something Repubs don’t do. She then demonstrated humility (she didn’t apologize, by the way), also something Repubs don’t do.

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Whether you’re identified as a Dem or not, you gain NOTHING by taking the abuse that the RW doles out to you.

NOTHING.

Taking the high road or being the adult in the room has gotten us where we are now. Now, I’m not saying that every liberal should turn into some version of Gohmert but you have to stand up, in some form, to them if you’re telling the truth.

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It takes a big person to apologize, Donald…

Thank you. Apparently, Rump has 0% Black support in Ohio.

ZERO.

If this is true, how much minority support in general does he have in NY, CA, or VA? And, yet, with this, he’s still supposedly tied with Clinton.

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Look, I adore RBG and I loved hearing her give him the what for. I literally hate Trump, truly, so I just enjoy hearing anybody go in on him. That said, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t also uncomfortable with a SCOTUS justice leveling this kind of criticism at a presidential candidate. It did feel a little wrong. Today, it’s one of my favorite judges going after my most hated presidential candidate in my lifetime, but tomorrow it could be Thomas going after, say, Kamala Harris. Shoe, other foot kind of thing. While I would’ve much preferred if she’d just let the whole matter drop without further comment, I can’t at all even begin to disparage her for showing the class and dignity I love and respect in her.

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I bummed she had to make a statement on this because her sentiments were 100% true. RGB has been fighting for progressives for her entire career and one statement is never going to change that for me…and let’s be real, this is the equivalent of saying: I regret y’all didn’t like what I said. #sorrtynotsorry.

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It’s a new phenomenon when we see unapologetic partisanship on SCOTUS such as the duck hunting incident where no apologies were issued only scorn of the criticism leveled at it. Ginsburg has deeply held feelings about the direction of country under the demagogue waiting in the wings, and she spoke up, perhaps inappropriately. Would that trumpet were to ever acknowledge he had misspoken unwisely.

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That said, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t also uncomfortable with a SCOTUS justice leveling this kind of criticism at a presidential candidate.

Except for the fact that it’s already happened. It’s not as if RBG did something that was totally unprecedented. The RW bench already opened that door during Pres. Obama’s tenure in the WH.

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Class act. 'Nuff said. I am really going to miss her when the time comes.

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She did nothing of the kind.

She didn’t even apologize—nor did she say she was wrong, or that her statements were untrue.

She just regretted her remarks, which is the classic non-apology apology.

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She was correct in expressing regret.

To those who question it, how would you like it if Alito gave an interview where he suggested that Clinton should have been prosecuted and if he was the judge, he’d have found her guilty of gross negligence?

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If I were to chose my heroes based on their unwavering ability never to apologize, I’d be a Republican.

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Except she is a (D) and is registered as one on her voting records. Also on her Wikipedia page. But here’s more proof from an article from WaPo in 2008:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/11/AR2008021102753.html

From the article:

Ginsburg, a registered Democrat in the District, regularly votes in primaries, even casting an absentee ballot in the 2006 midterm contest.

I’m sure that doesn’t mean she makes court decisions based on her party affiliation since I believe she has the integrity to make those decisions based solely on the law…but some, mostly repukes would want to disagree with that of course.

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