Discussion: Russian Official Accuses Ukraine Of Undermining Trump Campaign

So now I suppose Russia will invade what’s left of Ukraine for working against the Russian attempts to undermine the Clinton campaign.

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Putin sure knows how to play HO like a spinning top - just pull the string. Now when HO’s BFF Putin decides to go deeper into the Ukraine, HO will remember just how much praise Putin and Co heaped on him, how much they tried to protect him from all the meanies and he won’t do a thing about it.

I’m constantly nauseous these days…

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Ms. Kirkland, this is from the Politico article you link to. Would this have been useful for TPM readers to know?

But, after Trump’s stunning victory over Clinton in last month’s presidential election, officials with (The National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine) appeared to backpedal (regarding allegations that Manofort was paid by “a pro-Russian Ukrainian political party funded by oligarchs”). One was quoted in the Russian tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda saying, “Mr. Manafort does not have a role in this case.”

Could you give this story more context?

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What, that Ukraine, already terrified that Trump has a deal to sell them out to Putin, moved immediately after his stunning, unexpected, completely inexplicable victory to placate a narcissistic authoritarian of a type Ukrainians are already all too familiar with?

Manafort is nose deep involved with Putin’s puppet president and party and with Russia directly. Whether or not they had additional off-the-books payments lined up for him is a matter of whether he’s also corrupt, not one of whether he’s an agent of a foreign power now deep in the counsel of a future president.

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I’m sure more context will explain it all away, how Ukraine was trying to unjustly damage Mr. Trump. (So unfair!) But why is Russia so interested in this anyway? I thought only “conspiracy theorists” believe that Russia was trying to influence this election?

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Putin and Assange may be targeting Germany next, in order to destabilize the Merkel government.

Oh, destabilizing Germany is a really bad idea.

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I’ll take some of your nausea off your hands in return for your accepting a portion of my generalized anxiety disorder [1]

[1]Benzos optional at extra cost

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You would believe Komsomolskaya Pravda’s account of what the Ukrainian government did? Huh?

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This is the most authoritative admission yet that Putin was putting his thumb on the scales for Drumpf.

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There’s no question. The only question is how far his help extended. Recount those votes in the Rust Belt!

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Yeah I have read that.

He’s determined to see the EU fail.

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So now the U.S. is a proxy state in the turf war between Russia and the Ukraine? We’ve certainly come down in the world.

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We already know, thanks to US intel, that they hacked the voter registration systems of at least two states.

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O haven’t we?

This shit is unbelievable. Simply unbelievable. And Reagan crowed endlessly about beating the Communists.

Ha ha.

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Of course, that’s not what I was interested in. I was interested in a story that was fleshed out a bit, and Kirkland reduced what was already a fairly thin story.

I don’t doubt that Manafort is corrupt. I just didn’t think that this story spread much light on the situation.

Yes, Putin has fooled us all by getting Trump to fill his cabinet with Republican reactionary rich fucks like DeVos, Mnuchin, Wilbur Mills, etc. and reactionary hacks like Sessions and Pompeo. As appealing as the idea of the Republican Party itself being a front for Putin, I think a simpler explanation is “Republicans”.

I am reporting what the Politico article reported. You might want to read the original and find out what it said rather than taking TPM’s lazy rewrite as gospel.

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That’s TAD.
Trump Anxiety Disorder.

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It’s an admission and a canard, literally a duck.

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Time for President Obama to declassify what the NSA has on Russian interference with the presidential elections. We can’t leave it up to the Russians to admit it all.

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This, of course, is designed to make Trump and his supporters angry at Ukraine so that there will be no political will in this country to interfere with Russia going whole-hog military all over Ukraine’s face.

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