Discussion: Russia Used Elaborate System To Evade Olympic Doping Tests

Two former executives from the Russian national anti-doping agency, Nikita Kamayev and Vyacheslav Sinev, died within the space of two weeks in February.

Sounds like hanky-panky to me. Any chance Polonium-210 was involved??

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The only way to win is the cheat.

Where have see that happen before?

And I wonder how the US government will respond if/when Mr. Rodchenkov meets with an “accident” while on US soil.

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Not only this but Putin kills then sodomizes and eats babies. I think I read it in the NY Times. Well maybe not but as reliable as the sunrise the Times is certain to have a negative story about Russia as the lead story on its online edition several times a week and so it has been for 3 years.

It’s coverage of Ukraine has been like a parody of Pravda circa 1956, with breathless attacks on Americas leadership replaced by breathless attacks on Russia’s. About the best you can say for it is that there is some truthyness in it. This article may be perfectly true in every detail and innuendo but at this point it’s hard to take anything the Times says about Russia at face value.

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Bribes in Tokyo. Cheating in Sochi, (Drugs) and in Beijing (Underage competitors)
Boston had the right idea. The only thing more hopelessly corrupt and gutless than the IOC is the American political process.
I’m waiting to hear how many medals Russia is going to lose (All of them, I hope) while the IOC defends the "Olympic Ideal"of amateur competition. (Just before they shovel more worthless gold medals at a bunch of American professional basketball players.)
The modern Olympic games were resurrected just before the turn of the 20th century. Today, at the beginning of the 21st century, we need to end them again. If people went completely crazy over FIFA, why don’t they apply the same “standards” to the Olympic Games?
The answer is media money, naturally.
The Olympics is the only planet wide, Officially sanctioned sports racket.
So how surprised should we be that they are corrupt?
The only thing to be done is to follow Boston’s lead and keep Americans and people who believe in fair play from being victimized by what amounts to an International “Game” of three card Monte.

No, FSB-238

Absolutely, but that skepticism shouldn’t be reserved for only their stories on Russia. I find this story credible but only because I’ve been following it for awhile and its been extensively reported by other sources than just the Times.

But I have seen enough stories by them in recent years that truly went off the rails of ethical journalism such that I now regard anything I read from them almost in the same category as Fox News. I treat it as propaganda unless I’m familiar with the author or have it confirmed to me by multiple other sources I consider more legitimate.

Ok. Not sure what I am supposed to think about this. The Russians cheat. The Americans cheat. Where is the difference. Is this some sort of private sector vs public sector conflict? Is one philosophy of cheating better than the other? If you don’t like cheating, don’t watch sports.

Nikita Kamayev and Vyacheslav Sinev, both died of heart attacks. Nikita Kamayev while cross county skiing.
and Sinev from unspecified causes, just for the record.
Makes me wonder if something or someone was gaining on them at the time.

Lying and cheating is endemic in Russian society. They lie to themselves, they lie to everyone else.

Healthy it is not, but successive generations of czars, party chairmen, and presidents either couldn’t do anything about it or made it worse.

When it’s reported, it’s always foreign enemies trying to undermine Mother Russia. Can’t defeat that logic.

They only use that stuff when Putin wants to send the message that it was the FSB and they can get you anywhere.

True, no one’s saying we as Americans are immune from cheating, far from it. What makes this story unusual is that the cheating was systemic and sponsored by the Russian government. We know the Soviets and other Eastern bloc countries used to sponsor clandestine PED programs for their athletes to give them an edge in the cold war too, so not that this is new. I’m not aware of an American sponsored government program that operated on a systemic level like this, are you?