Discussion: Rubio Says Russians Hacked A Florida County's Elections System In 2016

Lemme guess, Broward? Palm Beach, Dade?

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Hard to see how this doesn’t call the validity of the election into question.

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my biggest concern is that republikkkan manufactured hackable voting machines which are still being used in many precincts across the country will be hacked either by the fascistgop or by the russians with the blessing of the fascistgop.

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Trump: They needed to as there are too many Puerto Ricans in FL now. Also, way too many Cubans. I dont like Little Marco.

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This bring up an interesting question I posed a few years ago when this topic was the province of conspiracy theorists.

If Vlad hacked our county election systems, do you think he would’ve done so if he didn’t feel he had a reasonable chance to succeed?

What did he define as success? Just poking in to look around to say he did it, the way some hackers like to penetrate big networks just to say they can?

Or, was it to alter voter registration rolls, precinct assignments, polling place addresses, you know, the stuff that the GOP routinely messes with in every election?

Or, was it the holy grail that no one ever wants to talk about, altering or ‘rigging’ the vote totals?

Did the Russians think about it, do a risk analysis and decide it wasn’t worth the effort?

Would we even have the tools to identify their fingerprints if they had?

I don’t know. Not going tinfoil here, just asking questions that I hope the FBI has or is looking into.

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But if acknowledged at all by the Trump side, they will just claim that it proves the Russians inflated Hillary’s popular vote . . . yes, for reasons that defy logic and evidence. Barring that, they will stick with the illegal voters claim. Trump’s ego won’t let him accept that Hillary got more votes in his “greatest election in history.”

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Which, in my ideal world, provides sufficient grounds to void the Gorsuch and Kavanaugh nominations and confirmations.

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Methinks Marco Rubio should start mass-tweeting images of executed and murdered dictators tagging them with #Russia…
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Oh, he won’t?
I guess Maduro doesn’t play footsy with Rubi as Putin does.

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My understanding is that there is pretty clear evidence that they hacked into voter records, and may have made some test alterations. Do voter records count as “elections systems”? I would be amazed to find that they were not interested in seeing how far they could hack into the systems that we use to control our elections, but at this stage it may have chiefly been exploratory and they did not make, or feel that they had or could make, enough in the way of access and changes to produce a desired outcome. (No doubt that would be the future plan, pending what was found.) It might be enough, for the sake of shaking us up, to show that it could be done, but they may not have wanted to reveal their hand for what might have proven to be a greater application. Imagine the power of being able to go in and directly change election results of an opponent country, without being caught. Welcome to the world of electronic voting.

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Your ideal world can come sit next to me.

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It is amusing to see Rubio concerned about voter data being deleted from registration systems when he presumably supported Republican purges of voter information. Only one party has made a serious business of this kind of effort, and it is his party.

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I looked at Florida vote totals by county this morning. Anyone see anything suspicious? Might help to compare totals in one or two previous elections.

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It doesn’t matter who manufactured the machines or if they are connected the internet.
The machines are only as reliable and honest as the people who have access to them.

But the experts were alarmed by something else they discovered. Examining the election-management computer at the county’s office — the machine used to tally official election results and, in many counties, to program voting machines — they found that remote-access software had been installed on it.

Remote-access software is a type of program that system administrators use to access and control computers remotely over the internet or over an organization’s internal network.

Logs showed the software was installed two years earlier and used multiple times, most notably for 80 minutes on November 1, 2010, the night before a federal election.

The software, it turns out, was being used not by a hacker but by an authorized county contractor working from home. Still, the arrangement meant anyone who might gain control of the contractor’s home computer could use it to access and gain control of the county’s election system.

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The FL county Ruskie hack HAS been reported previously. This is NOT really new ‘news’.
What is news: Mueller’s report just set the high water mark of FACTUAL TRUTH and the R-triber hypocrites must NOW make some sign of concern.

PATHETIC!

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My guess is no. All the big players in the commercial electronic voting machine market are extremely hostile to any kind of independent scrutiny of their machines, to the point that they even refuse to let poll workers perform pre-polling dry runs to verify the machines are working.

They literally claim that it violates “trade secrets” to have the poll workers cast 5 test votes and then count them to verify the machine is functioning. And, for whatever reason, a lot of counties simply accept those terms.

That kind of aggressive behavior means there isn’t a robust community of practitioners creating the kinds of well-designed and battle-tested forensic tools we’d need. Anyone who participated in that kind of behavior could be subject to civil litigation from the likes of Diebold. Every now and then you hear about a university team who demonstrate a colossal zero-day exploit against a popular machine, but I have no idea how they manage to escape the fear and anger of the voting machine companies.

We desperately need solid tech, and this is actually a problem that America’s huge software- and knowledge-based economy could really sink its teeth into. But I’m not sure we can do much as long as underpowered county officials continue to willingly bend over for the couple of big industry players and their monopolistic practices.

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The Russians hacked into voter rolls around the country. Trump won a miracle victory in every one of the swing states by a near identical 1% margin. Not a single voting machine has been examined but we are supposed to be comforted by generic assurances that no vote totals were changed.

The credulousness it would take not to be highly suspicious under these circumstances is inconceivable. Yet any concern along these lines has been equated with being a “conspiracy theorist.” Sort of like the way many of us were viewed back in the summer of 2016 when we started to suspect the Trump campaign of colluding with the Russians.

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“They won’t tell us which county it was, are you kidding me?” DeSantis said Thursday, expressing his frustration. “Why would you have not said something immediately?”

Good, yet naive gov “build the wall” DesSantis.

If the meddling in anyway helped the election results… the ptb (at this point, your professed hero) don’t really have an interest in stopping that meddling, now do they?

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Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) and Gov. Ron DeSantis ÂŽ are reportedly slated to receive a briefing in the next few weeks.

And, once they’ve been briefed, they will do everything they can to see that the Russians succeed without any trouble or fear of detection. I guarantee it.

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