Clinton put in a workable framework that kept NK from developing and testing a nuclear weapon. In an attempt to make it appear he was not singling out Arab countries the President of Saudi Arabia (George W Bush) destroyed that agreement and ushered in this hellish standoff. As a nation we must stop this self imposed amnesia to forget who the real culprits are.
As an example, League of Nations was sabotaged after WWI by none other that the Republican party because President Wilson hurt their feelings. Would the LON have prevented War II? Donât think it could have made it worse.
The negotiations to bring a truce in the Korean war took 3 yrs. The NK negotiating tactic is to wear down the other side such that theyâre willing to accept compromises favorable to NK. This could end shortly or it could go on for years with the west unwilling to cut it off for fear of never getting an agreement. The SK know the NK mind. We have to follow their advice in conducting negotiations unless they prove to be patently wrong in their assessments. I expect the Trumpians to fuck it up royally.
You call that failure? You havenât even begun to see failureâŚbigly failure, more costly and dangerous failure than anyone has ever been capable of. The worst deal ever.
I confess Iâm guessing, but I think long range Kim would like to have some kind of political influence in SK, a seat at the table so to speak. Replacing the truce with a peace agreement would be a first step. Presumably that would involve demilitarizing the DMZ, but that would be a herculean task what with his network of tunnels and our minefields.
The failure is our imbecile president thinking this is just a cake walk to fame.
Something for the all eternity history books.
Problem being, trump already lost this round and he just doesnât know it yet.
How far will he sell out to look like a bigly huge super prez?
No DMZ , Take our troops out, remove all our deterrents from sea, land and air.
KImâs about 5 moves from checkmate on this idiot.
Kim gets what he wants and trump comes home whining about whoâs fault it is.
There is no good outcome in this.
China, Iran and Russia will always feed the monster no matter what. It keeps the monster fed and satisfied.
The claim that âTrump is the best negotiatorâ is hilarious! In the case of NK, such a claim is frightening.
Not even a little. The war was more or less inevitable as a result of the punishing terms of the Treaty of Versailles, which more or less put the blame for the Great War solely on Germany and Austria-Hungary. With that treaty in place, the German people were pretty much primed for Hitler. Keep in mind that while the League officially came into being 5 months before the signing of Versailles, the first meeting of the League (and so, its effective âStart of Businessâ) didnât come until the next year, well after Germany had been forced to accept the War Guilt clause that more or less set the Second World War in motion.
Since the unfit, unqualified racist birther scumbag doesnât care one bit about this (as he is aiming for a âwinâ) and gets what little info he has about the Korean peninsula from reruns of âMASH,â I expect heâll nominate Frank Burns to lead negotiating the gritty details. And maybe call in the French guy from âHoganâs Heroesâ to take at look at those tunnels, which all lead to the doghouse at Stalag 13.
There is absolutely no reason for Kim to give up his nukes with Trump as president. Donald could offer him Alaska, Oregon and Washington and Kim would still not budge. The only winner is going to be South Korea which was able to flip on the Republican Party and find a way to normalize relations with the North without giving up anything themselves to either Kim or Trump.
Donald should never have walked away from negotiating world trade. Even Kim gets it now.
Well played by South Korea, China and Russia. Donald still doesnât know whatâs going which is the way all the rest of the world leaders like to keep him. The real loser is the Republican Party which understands all too well that they had to give away the entire store for nothing.
At best, Donald gets a photo opp and then is ushered out of the room so the grownups can eat in peace and quiet.
Worst deal ever? Thatâs buying a condo in a Trump high rise and finding out too late that it doesnât even have sprinklers. The entire Trump presidency is a Towering Inferno with no sprinklers.
I wonder about the cheap NK labor angle here, for SK and China. I think Un could profit massively by making trade deals for labor that he still controls. And I donât think the US wouldnât get anything out of it. (Plus, heâll probably keep a little nuke hobby going somewhere. Just not the burned out joint where theyâre doing it nowâŚ)