Discussion: Rick Scott Accuses Of Genocide, Suggests U.S. Military Should 'Help' Deliver Aid

So I had to open the article to actually see who Skeletor was accusing.

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Oops.

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When will Rick Scott invade Israel and stop the real genocide against the Palestinians? When will Rick Scott stand against the Saudi genocide of the Yemeni’s? The Russians and Chinese were invited to Venezuela, America was not. It is America who is staging a coup in Venezuela on behalf of oil companies and the conservative ruling power elite.

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So when will Republicans start to care about Americans suffering in Puerto Rico? Or asylum seekers fleeing unimaginable violence and poverty in Central America? Is it that there’s little to no oil there?

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While I agree in general, I don’t think having been invited necessarily absolves a foreign power from charges of abuse or genocide.

An example: Before WW2, Franco’s “Nationalists” invited Hitler and Mussolini into Spain to help them destroy their opponents. The fact that these fascists were invited does not excuse their butchery.

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anywhere in the US. I wonder if Scott would “consider whether we do military” to deliver aid to our citizens when a majority “calls for its current leader to step aside.” After all, this administration makes “Our adversaries question our will and our determination.”

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So do we assume that Rick Scott would welcome Venezuelans to Florida? Let’s just create some war refugees and let them fend for themselves. The true American way.

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dotard is itching to use military power somewhere; let’s see how quickly the rest of the republicons sign on.

Apples and oranges. The Saudis are killing Yeminus in the Holocaust range. The Palestinian population on the other hand is both increasing and has a normal life.span for the area.

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Scott remains the clueless idiot he’s always been. Like the entire USA’s government, actually, so he fits right in. So, put him in a uniform, hand this big-mouthed scum a gun, and throw him to the wolves. He can then face both Russian and Chinese military in Venezuela, just like the rest of the idiotic armed forces of the USA:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-24/russian-troops-aid-arrive-caracas-trump-leaves-military-intervention-venezuela.

https://www.fort-russ.com/2019/04/major-chinese-military-personnel-arrive-in-venezuela-with-humanitarian-supplies/.

https://iranian.com/2019/04/02/chinas-pla-troops-in-venezuela/.

https://www.fort-russ.com/2019/04/end-of-u-s-empire-russian-general-confirms-s-500-completion-near-meaning-total-end-of-u-s-air-hegemony/.

In fact, read “Twilight’s Last Gleaming” by Greer, pub. 2015, to get an idea of just exactly how the Chinese (and Russians, when it comes to that) are able to and will defeat the USA in any conventional war. Scott’s wishful thinking incipient war will lead to civil war in the USA and then the dissolution of the empire into several sovereign countries after the Beltway is incinerated, disarming the imperial war machine forever, thus giving life a fighting chance to survive on earth after all.

When are Republicans going to realize that the rest of the world doesn’t want their damn fossil fuels any longer? It’s totally now worth the effort of starting another war to protect oil interests.outside this country. The Russians got there first anyways just like they did in Syria.

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Things are bad enough and now I’m reminded that this slimy sipunculid that walks like a man is a Senator. He wants to fight? Fine, give him a “Jungle Jim” suit and a gun from Walmart and drop kick him the fuck into the middle of the the Venezuelan rainforest. If we’re lucky, he will be eaten by a large and hungry anaconda.

ETA. If Maduro were targeting indigenous peoples, that would be genocide. He is simply a “butcher”.

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Thank you for noting this. Hyperbolizing Israeli mistreatment of Palestinians into “genocide” is ridiculous. It only undermine legitimate efforts in support of addressing Palestinian grievances.

I would, however substitute your use of “Holocaust” with the word “genocide.” In reference to Nazi crimes, Holocaust is a proper noun that refers to the specific historical event perpetrated on Jews, Roma, gays, communists and others.

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I’m sure there’s an oily reasoning to Skeletors whining…w

Two other examples are the South Vietnamese “inviting” the United States into South Vietnam, and the Afghanis “inviting” the Soviets into Afghanistan. As these leaders were installed by the governments they were inviting, these were effectively invasions, even if we don’t call them as such.

Oh, yeah, Maduro is totalitarian and abusing power, but his actions are hardly genocidal. You have to start either killing or moving a clearly-identifiable group (say, Jews, Armenians, Kulaks, Palestinians) en masse for that to happen, which isn’t happening here.

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“Hyperbolizing”? And “ridiculous,” you say?

Consider this:

Hitler was right. The crime of the Reich in wantonly and deliberately wiping out whole peoples is not utterly new in the world. It is only new in the civilized world as we have come to think of it. It is so new in the traditions of civilized man that he has no name for it.

It is for this reason that I took the liberty of inventing the word, “genocide.” The term is from the Greek word genos meaning tribe or race and the Latin -cide meaning killing. Genocide tragically enough must take its place in the dictionary of the future beside other tragic words like homicide and infanticide. As Von Rundstedt has suggested, the term does not necessarily signify mass killings although it may mean that.

More often it refers to a coordinated plan aimed at destruction of the essential foundations of the life of national groups so that these groups wither and die like plants that have suffered a blight. The end may be accomplished by the forced disintegration of political and social institutions, of the culture of the people, of their language, their national feelings and their religion. It may be accomplished by wiping out all basis of personal security, liberty, health and dignity. When these means fail the machine gun can always be utilized as a last resort. Genocide is directed against a national group as an entity and the attack on individuals is only secondary to the annihilation of the national group to which they belong.

The excerpt is from an article by Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew. It appeared in Free World, Vol. 4 (April, 1945), pp. 39-43. In the early 1930s, Lemkin was among the first to raise the alarm: he sought to declare Nazism a crime. His effort was unsuccessful.

You may not have previously encountered his hyperbolic and ridiculous thoughts on genocide. Here he is:

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So say the Israeli government. It’s less than the Israelis, who have about a 10 year advantage. And the Israelis are trying to make Gaza uninhabitable, which miiiight have an effect on lifespan.

If the Palestinians resisted with a sustained military response to Israeli occupation and apartheid do you doubt that the Israelis would react with a genocidal response?

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Shorter Skeletor: “Let’s take their oil!”

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