Discussion: Reports: Centers For Disease Control Climate Summit Canceled After Election

We have fiddled away nearly two decades without a serious effort to moderate global warming and we are nearly out of time. We cannot wait another 4 years. The oceans have absorbed about all the heat they can. The warming of the Arctic will release huge methane reserves which will add substantially to the greenhouse effect. Arctic and Antarctic ice is rapidly disappearing and Greenland glaciers are melting with alarming speed. Scientists are still arguing over what a large influx of cold water into the Gulf Stream might do to climate in N. America and Europe. Weather around the world is already being dramatically affected by the warming of the oceans. This affects our food supplies as the population on the planet increases.
Without the US’s cooperation in moderating greenhouse gases any effort worldwide will not likely succeed. Humans have meddled for centuries, without knowing what harm they were causing, to ecosystems. Now it is all coming home to roost with more violent storms and weather extremes on every continent. Seas will continue to rise whether the Trump admin. likes it or not.

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WHAT CLIMATE CHANGE???
IT’S ALL RAMEN NOODLES ISN’T IT?
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As my dad would say in situations like this that defy rational approaches…

Aww, horseshit Little Eva!

It’s January 23rd and it’s 68 degrees where I am. I realize that weather is not climate. But Jeebus folks!. I have some potted hibiscus plants in our side yard and they are a sensitive tropical plant. When it gets below about 35 degrees they get brought inside until the cold snap finishes. Generally they are inside for about 3 weeks of January. Not this year so far.
I have watched the climate change here in Tucson over the near 50 years I have lived here. It’s January like I said and my garden is sprouting! 4-6 weeks early.

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Any who fail to act on the climate threat are complicit in genocide and ecocide – those in official positions who stall action are morally equivalent to Nazi death camp guards.

You got that right!

Under Harper, who was another of the religious dominionist loons such as we have here in the US in large numbers, had entire libraries of scientific papers thrown into dumpsters and destroyed. Many scientists lost their jobs. I always thought that Canada was our sane neighbor to the north but they too elected a lunatic to be PM. Fortunately he is gone but the damage he did to science in Canada is incalculable.

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sonsofares, What pleasure does it give you to be an asshole? So you’ve got a janitorial job or the like at a university, and you think you understand scientists?

Ignore the troll.

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But climate change certainly affects weather. Weather seems to get more extreme. Extreme drought on the west coast and now that area is being inundated by powerful storms (they still won’t alleviate the drought deficit. 70 degrees in much of Georgia in the middle of the winter. Tornadoes can form in any season now and are much more powerful in many cases. I lived in Tulsa, OK for 6 years back in the '50’s and we used to get the occasional tornado but they were nothing like the F3’s and 4’s and even 5’s that afflict the mid-west now. The weather extremes fueled by global warming do much more damage which is why we have so many refugees from N. Africa and the Middle East where droughts are extreme.

I am flabbergasted that trump would deny the science of climate change but then he is a very anti-science sort of guy especially if science goes against his version of reality…whatever that might be. trump is of the camp who think that facts have a liberal bias. He has no science training of any kind beyond what he may have gotten 50-60 years ago in middle school
I am very glad I retired. I don’t have to fight the n00bs in government to get my lab funded. It was as if they did not think that finding a way to diagnose ovarian cancer early was important. That’s what I was working on.

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“We are currently exploring options so that the Summit may take place later in the year,” it reads, as quoted by Climate Wire. …After the Cheeto has left the building…

Facebook and Twitter are not useless, they in fact are good for passing news and information, and for organizing. Maybe not your pages…a group of scientists using Facebook contains all sorts of useful information, fact based and well thought out.

They are also voters (which was plain on Nov 8th) and speaking out, and talking to their members of the government. The biggest problem that scientists have is that we tend to live in the cities…I live in CA so all my members are Democrats and standing up to Trump already. But that’s still happening, even with the ones who are on government grants, because people aren’t going to sit around and wait for the government to cut all our science funding, and aren’t willing to allow these yahoos to keep trying to pass garbage as science. We have been fighting this battle for a long time now, and scientist will continue to be on the forefront of making sure that the world hew to facts and truth instead of BS.

Not sure what your issue is with scientists, but you’re wrong about what you think. And, you have no evidence to back it up aside from your biased statements…which makes your behavior on par with a Trump supporter. Instead of trying to undercut people fighting hard for the truth in our nation, maybe you should point your ire at the people trying to subvert it.

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@ralph_vonholst

Hey Scientists…Have any of you read The Great Influenza by John M. Barry?

The CDC being politicized is frightening.

As you said, scientists are human beings who are part of the civic and social structure. Because of that we are as political as anyone - on the inside. It’s on the outside where your statement is true because scientists know that allowing politics to corrupt the mission to understand the nature of the world is a fundamental failure of our core purpose. Funding is susceptible to politics but the world isn’t. The world operates on hard truths and cold equations, and as much as the anti-vaxxers, climate change deniers, and the creationists would like otherwise, we have to find out what these hard truths are to face what the world will throw at us.

I don’t know what’s going on with the CDC but I suspect they are trying to protect themselves from an anti-science agenda in the current government that is straight out of the Dark Ages. They may or may not know how best to do that, but until more news comes out that explains their action, I will think they are trying their best to figure out how to stay alive in what could be an existentially dangerous political environment.

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Seriously. Even the scientists protecting us from who the hell knows what are cancelling because of this douchebag. We need them working and discussing ways to combat the numerous health issues that will arise with the changing climate. GOD DAMNIT!!!(&"#"("*#

Why would the GOP do anything to halt or slow the spread of zika, given that it increases the rate of microcephaly?

Arctic and Antarctic ice is rapidly disappearing and Greenland glaciers are melting with alarming speed.

Good for Russia?

I think the timing of the cancellation was strategic. Sends a message.

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It is disturbing that one political party is anti-science. Especially at such a critical time. The fundamentalist evangelical movement in this country has a lot to answer for the anti-science attitude. When I was a young woman there wasn’t a conflict between religion and science like there is today. OTOH, I have read that young people are turning away from the church.
Ovarian cancer is a killer. I can imagine your frustration fighting for funding. Frustrating that we fund the military for trillions but not research that could save lives.

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Maybe Trump will take it seriously when the polar ice caps melt and water levels rise to the 5th floor of the Trump Tower.

…NAH!