I only care enough to write that I really don’t care what you think.
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At the inaugural protest I went to on Friday, someone said 12 pm EDT was the time to set our clocks back 60 years. He was so right.
Trump is anti-science and spouts woo constantly from anti-vaccination inanity to complete denial of climate change. He and the Republican hegemony do not want to investigate or do research on anything from gun violence to climate affected disease outbreaks, because they do not want to have to waste time and money disputing facts and research that will show how dangerous their agenda is. I don’t know how many of these guys actually think Jesus is coming back in the near future, but a lot of them sure act like the future does not go beyond 5 years.
In the words of a famous philosopher, SAD!
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It is the same as gun violence research. The CDC must avoid any research that can be remotely connected to gun regulation or Congress will cut their funding (as it did in the 90’s). The CDC is not the problem. Congress and the President are the problems, and the voters who voted for these Koch and NRA leadership puppets.
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On Facebook? How useless.
Twitter? Useless.
It does not matter what is posted online: scientists, as you know, tend to be very cautious and conservative (and not necessarily in a political sense.) They are not going to endanger their grants or anything that comes with federal strings attached. They will most do nothing because they are often employing people in their research. You know that as well as I do.
You want to “do something?” Make sure you send your friends a list of phone numbers for their reps and encourage them to call. They can even do it on off-hours. Don’t bother with FB or Tweets. Because if they’re not taking the time to engage at the local or state level, or are not ponying up their own money to give to those organizations who spend a lot of time doing those things, it does not matter what they post to your FB page.
But most of them won’t. Maybe you should poll them and ask your friends if they did, indeed, even vote. Prepare to be surprised.
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This is one of the threads I read this morning. Deserves to be read by many.
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Generalize all you want; it’s easier than critical thinking.
Probably explains why you are not a scientist.
I heard lots of CBC stories about scientists who felt they were being muzzled. I note that there was no “uprising”, if you will, against any of that, and it was pretty bad.
Now look: I suspect many more scientists might be looking to work in Canada because they cannot bear to be forced to say that 2 and 2 is 5.
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I’m sure you are convinced your shit doesn’t stink either, being a such a “critical thinker.” Congrats on being selected to succeed Plato at the Academy.
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Whatever, have a great day, Dr.
No golden showing evidence is going to materialize. I think there’s something to the story but it’s not going to be developed. Just like the tapes with him calling folks niggers…it’s not going to be developed. Don’t know how it’s going down…money…horses heads…but something is shutting people up. Trump’s been a Gotham denizen for near a century. He knows how to sleaze and he knows how to fix things.
China is already rattling the sabers on this …
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/22/as-us-cedes-leadership-on-climate-others-step-up-at-davos.html
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None of the protesters voted and no scientists vote. The only people who voted at all unanimously voted for Trump ( biggest majority in the history voting-100%!) and no one who didn’t vote for him counts, so everyone else shut up, Shut Up , SHUT UP!!!
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And that is what would most likely happen. This is a cautionary smart move. Trump would cancel the summit to gain a little Republican praise. He has no fucking idea how this all works. And doesn’t want to either.
Once you read about it you realize it’s not the warring, it’s climate change. Just a small example that opened my eyes:
More than 10,000 migrants and refugees traveled to Western Europe via Hungary over the weekend, fleeing conflict-ravaged and impoverished homelands in the hope of finding a more secure life abroad. Even as Europe wrestles over how to absorb the new arrivals, human rights activists and migration experts warn that the movement is not likely to slow anytime soon. Intractable wars, terror and poverty in the Middle East and beyond will continue to drive the surge. One additional factor, say scientists, is likely to make it even worse: climate change.
From 2006 to 2011, large swaths of Syria suffered an extreme drought that, according to climatologists, was exacerbated by climate change. The drought lead to increased poverty and relocation to urban areas, according to a recent report by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences and cited by Scientific American. “That drought, in addition to its mismanagement by the Assad regime, contributed to the displacement of two million in Syria,” says Francesco Femia, of the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Climate and Security. “That internal displacement may have contributed to the social unrest that precipitated the civil war. Which generated the refugee flows into Europe.” And what happened in Syria, he says, is likely to play out elsewhere going forward.
Across the Middle East and Africa climate change, according to climatologists at the U.S. Department of Defense-funded Strauss Center project on Climate Change and African Political Stability in Texas, has already affected weather. These changes have contributed to more frequent natural disasters like flooding and drought. Agricultural land is turning to desert and heat waves are killing of crops and grazing animals. Over the long term, changing weather patterns are likely to drive farmers, fishermen and herders away from affected areas, according to Femia’s Center for Climate and Security, and into urban centers — as has already happened in Syria. Both the Pentagon, which calls climate change a “threat multiplier” and U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton have warned of “water wars,” in which rival governments or militias fight over declining resources, sending even greater waves of migrants in search of security and sustenance. On Aug. 31, Secretary of State John Kerry warned that climate change could create a new class of migrants, what he called “climate refugees” at a conference on climate change conference in Anchorage, Alaska. “You think migration is a challenge to Europe today because of extremism, wait until you see what happens when there’s an absence of water, an absence of food, or one tribe fighting against another for mere survival,” he said.
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Are you being paid in Rubles? If you are trying to get rational people on this thread to turn against scientists because they are not "doing anything’ and are about to flee to Canada, well, my guess is that you live in Moldova. It’s a paycheck, I guess, but a shameful way to make a buck.
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Scientists are not tin gods. They are human beings with familes, live in houses, and have civic responsibilities, like everyone else. Some are radicals, most are not. They are generally not political by nature. But politics is thrust upon them because scientific results and findings, such as global climate change predictions and epidemiological outcomes, have political implications. So, if the CDC can keep put of the limelight and keep a low profile, when the next outbreak ocurrs, they will be in a better position to react. If outcomes of another ebola outbreak, for example, are not good, the Trump administration will surely attempt to blame the scientists, even if it was the Trumpists themselves, who helped inflame the crisis by retaliatory budget and personnel cuts.
Public safety is not negotiable to the CDC, even if it is for the Trumpists. It might feel goid to witness a full scale mass resignation of personnel, but then, the public would suffer.
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Climate change, a term that is anathema to Reps due to the fact that it would cripple the fossil fuel industry and there goes all those Rep donor money. I can’t wait for the oil barons to start dropping dead
C’mon, who needs the CDC? Just a bunch of liberal lefty scientists…
And these idiots think in terms of America First.
They haven’t a clue, or somehow think their money will get them thru. They certainly care less about thier children and grandchildren
Oh yeah? I was a scientist at the U of A medical school and I was known to be activist. It was pretty obvious since I sport long hair and a beard. But I digress. I have voted in every election (mid-term and Presidential) since Nixon’s 1st run and when there are local , primary, or any other sort of voting opportunity I am there.
At least you said “most” and not “all”. It’s not just scientists tho:
When 47% of registered voters don’t bother we have a problem. And scientists don’t make up 47% of the electorate.
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One summit co-sponsor reportedly claimed that the CDC had canceled the event in anticipation of political uncertainties posed by the new Trump administration. ... "We are currently exploring options so that the Summit may take place later in the year,"Hopefully, climate change itself will have the good manners to similarly delay any effects in anticipation of political uncertainties. It's not like it's an urgent problem, or a clear and inevitable (on our current path) threat to human civilization on this planet. Oh wait...
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