Discussion for article #238715
So now when we go to movie theaters, after Aurora and this one, we will have to take off our shoes and be searched as we enter the theater, just like going on an airplane. No thanks, I haven’t been to a movie theater in 12 years, mostly because most movies are shit, but also because I have Netflix, Hulu, etc at home and a 60 inch screen and no one watches a movie in my home with a gun.
Thank you, national gun rights idiots. How much of American traditions, and how many people will you people be responsible for killing THIS year? Tens of thousands of us die every year from guns, only a few from knives and probably none from rocks. NRA: go to Hell.
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Thank you, national gun rights idiots. How much of American traditions, and how many people will you people be responsible for killing THIS year? Tens of thousands of us die every year from guns, only a few from knives and probably none from rocks. NRA: go to Hell.
[/quote]To be brutally fair, everyone being armed would prevent a few of these tragedies. But, as much as the hype says otherwise, these tragedies are rare. Everyone being armed would dramatically increase the number of gun accidents and times when a hothead decides the best way to solve everything is to get the drop on the other guy. The gun accidents mostly stay out of the news, but there are way more of them than these shootings.
Knives are a different beast from guns because a stabbing is a personal way of killing someone. You need to get in close, and that’s tough if you don’t know the other fellow. Guns are always going to be the weapon of choice here regardless of the laws involved.
Still, I have to ask what the hell is going on with this country. I’m wondering if we’re finally starting to cover what is always here, that there is the occasional maniac with a gun, and that just being black is a common cause of death. Still, it’s scary.
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Well, yeah tons of thousands die each year, but but but, a woman was killed in Califrisco by an illegal messican.
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This National Enquirer type reporting gives no context, no sense of proportion. If TPM scoured the internet every day for drownings in backyard pools as they do for gun tragedies, could they fire up a campaign to outlaw backyard pools?
This is anecdotal evidence. Ancedotal evidence is useful to point where further investigation might be warranted. You make public policy based on valid statistical evidence.
Nothing new at all: Gun nutty white person in Red state goes on shooting rampage, then kills self. Not one thing will change, but we will all pretend to be saddened and outraged. The media will flap their arms, and refuse to hold all GOP candidates responsible for thwarting reasonable gun laws.
Next.
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Somehow, the NRA will find a way to blame Amy Schumer for this.
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For “valid statistical evidence,” you might begin by comparing US gun deaths and gun ownership numbers with that in all other civilized countries. Then, most of us understandably wonder why we don’t have similar gun policies to theirs.
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Uhm, no. To be brutally fair, if everyone in that theater were armed there would be a huge pile of dead bodies as the terrified armed innocent people opened random fire, killing geometrically more bystanders. The more guns=more safety is a ridiculous solution that simply is never acted out in real life.
In over an hour of news gibberish, no mention of more restrictive gun laws, or mentally ill people armed to the teeth has come up, even though every official has reminded us to “pray”. Ugh. Yeah, praying will change everything!
I’ve trained myself not to care.
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That is a ridiculous comparison. You sound like a completely ignorant gun nut/apologist.
“Valid statistical EVIDENCE” informs us that in gun happy America, held hostage by the gun lobby and abetted by low information paranoid citizens produces tens of thousands of deaths A YEAR. This carnage dwarfs the gun deaths in the rest of the civilized world. But that’s just valid statistical evidence.
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The headline should read, “Responsible gun owner goes to the movies!”
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There is no such thing as a gun accident.
A couple of images explain my reaction to your comment:
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This National Enquirer type reporting gives no context, no sense of proportion. If TPM scoured the internet every day for drownings in backyard pools as they do for gun tragedies, could they fire up a campaign to outlaw backyard pools?
This is anecdotal evidence. Ancedotal evidence is useful to point where further investigation might be warranted. You make public policy based on valid statistical evidence.
Glad you asked. Here’s the CDC stats:
Number of drowning deaths in the US annually: 3,533 Source
Number of firearms deaths in the US annually: 33,636 Source
Guns are 10 times more likely to kill than pools. Oh, wait, drowning deaths include people drowning in beaches and bathtubs too…
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Don Lemon spoke with “a law enforcement analyst” I forget the name who bragged he never goes to the movies unarmed esp. when taking his kids. And he said everyone should do likewise and he said he had a concealed carry permit and was law enforcement gun trained and also military gun trained. My take is even trained gun nuts make mistakes. TPM has had endless stories of cops dropping pistols, shooting a finger off in a gun store etc so trained folks fuck up. So then being trained and skilled becomes a non-argument. I am trained myself and I choose to leave the weapons at home locked up. Particularly since this isn’t Afghanistan. War zones are different circumstances.
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Sure, but only because you can’t carry a swimming pool.
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and what rock have you been hiding under for the past 30 years…?
this guy sounds like a walking Darwin award nominee…
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I was thinking circular firing squad. With AK’s and unlimited ammo.
Especially a concealed one.
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