When did she try to talk him out of it? Just before he placed the 911 call? Did he tell her before that? Did he tell her when they went to buy the ammo and holster? It really matters, and that part of the timeline is essential to the reporting. Where’s the follow up?
From an earlier John Judis post:
“In addition, Trump sounded an ominous note by insinuating (without evidence) that American Muslims were aware of the terrorists in their midst, but were not reporting them to authorities.”
And now this:
Officials familiar with the case told the network that ***Noor Mateen admitted that she once drove her husband Omar to the Pulse nightclub where the attack was carried out because he wanted to scope it out.*** She also reportedly told the FBI that ***she accompanied him to buy ammunition and a holster prior to Sunday morning's attack.***
NBC reported that authorities are considering filing criminal charges against her for failing to share this information with law enforcement when it happened. Omar Mateen was killed in a shootout with police at Pulse after slaying 49 and wounding 53.
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Donald Trump is plain demented. Yet even a broken clock is correct twice a dayWhy is this all leaking out before anything near a full investigation is complete?
If she knew, charge her. She could have saved countless of lives. I get that he’s her husband but the least she could have done is called 911.
This bitch needs to be arrested and tried for 1st degree murder.
Battered spouses are defined by their abuser.
Alrighty now…I’m all for getting on her for not reporting on her husband’s craziness and/or helping him out but you are going after THIS woman and the FBI who flubbed this up BIG TIME is just an ‘oops’???
Mateen’s FIRST wife went public with accusations of domestic violence. Mateen’s second wife, the person suspected of possible previous knowledge of Mateen’s attack, has made no such public accusations to date.
Wow, just fucking wow. She knew, yet…
For me it depends on when she knew. If he said it within a week or two of the murders, then yes, she needs to pay for her responsibility in the massacre. If this was six months ago, then she may have believed that she talked him out of the attack. Going with him to buy the gun and ammunition is more of a problem, but again, I’d want to know what he told her about buying it. Lord knows, the NRA has a bazillion reasons why buying an assault weapon is perfectly acceptable. If he said he intended to use it against people then she needs to be held accountable. If he was talking about using it for self-defense (no matter how nutty that may sound) then she may have been willing to believe him on that.
Thanks for sharing both your stupidity and your misogyny.
For knowledge that her husband was violent?
“…authorities are considering filing criminal charges against her…”
Outrageous. Throw her in jail.
Based on what his first wife said and her conduct here, it is highly likely she was suffering from battered person syndrome. One of the most common features is a “learned helplessness” response that, though they don’t think of it this way, causes them to treat the abusive spouse as, in some sense, all-knowing and all-powerful. They literally do not perceive the possibility of escape. And (not irrationally) they invariably believe any resort to the authorities will result in harm or death to them and their children without any actual consequences for the abuser. That is, they believe the spouse will know what they did before they do it, kill them and the kids for it, and then get off scot free.
Lots of people, both men and women, have an incredibly negative response–denial that there is such a thing, denigration of the sufferer for being weak and impotent, and a complete inability to accept that the distorted worldview it creates can possibly be real, much less exculpatory. But it’s a real thing.
When battered person syndrome (BPS) manifests as PTSD, it consists of the following symptoms: (a) re-experiencing the battering as if it were recurring even when it is not, (b) attempts to avoid the psychological impact of battering by avoiding activities, people, and emotions, (c) hyperarousal or hypervigilance, (d) disrupted interpersonal relationships, (e) body image distortion or other somatic concerns, and (f) sexuality and intimacy issues.[7]
Here’s the key part:
Additionally, repeated cycles of violence and reconciliation can result in the following beliefs and attitudes:[8]
The abused thinks that the violence was his or her fault.
The abused has an inability to place the responsibility for the violence elsewhere.
The abused fears for her/his life, and/or, the lives of loved ones whom the abuser might or has threatened to harm (e.g., children-in-common, close relatives or friends).
The abused has an irrational belief that the abuser is omnipresent and omniscient.
…and on what charge exactly? You know, that’s why they are investigating right?
Wish I could like that far more than once.
He was a security guard. What spouse of a security guard is going to consider the act of purchasing a handgun suspicious? Unless he said “Babe, this is the gun I’m using to kill a bunch of infidels!” what was she supposed to do?
“Is this the FBI? Good! My husband just bought a handgun and ammunition!! OMG!!! I’m worried sick he is up to no good!!”
“Calm down miss. What does your husband do for a living?”
“He’s a security guard.”
“Ummmm…well…hmmm”
The FBI investigated and came to believe the guy was just talk. She knew he planned to kill. big difference.
It’s extremely unlikely that he changed from one wife to the next. Without intense counseling and treatment, it’s basically once an abuser always an abuser.