Discussion: Report: Mueller Prosecutors Said In Private That Trump Obstructed Justice

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Color me surprised.

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Well… yeah, I think anyone who knows anything about the law knows that. It’s never been a question of whether Trump obstructed justice, only what, if anything, can be done about it?

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It is a good thing that the Executive is insulated from prosecution, so that the Executive branch can remain free to nullify the Legislative branch. Just as the founders intended when they envisioned a government by the billionaires, for the billionaires.

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Tell me again how we’re all equal in the eyes of the law.

And, while you’re at it, tell me what a courageous hero Mueller is.

Please.

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Gee really.

What a surprise - some lawyers looked at the evidence and saw the obvious.

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Barr and Rosenstein have determined that POTUS is above the law. They don’t care about the Constitution. It is all about power and holding onto power.

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Is it me or does it seem like there is a growing analysis that Trump and his Klan are in for some trouble soon?

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Glad to. He put together a ready-made impeachment kit you can take off the shelf and get right to work with. Clearly he saw that as the most viable solution to the Trump problem. But be a cynic because he didn’t abate the nuisance singlehandedly, it’s easy and fun, right?

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There was very little in the Mueller report that was not reported elsewhere.

p. 2, V. II of the Mueller’s Report):

“….[W]e determined not to apply an approach that could potentially result in a judgment that the President committed crimes.”

Mueller is daring Congress to impeach. Not just suggesting it.
I think people will be disappointed when/if Mueller testifies before the House. I doubt he will say what we want him to.

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“In private, Trump’s doctors say he’s fat.”

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Sometimes I think that people do like I sometimes did with my Dad when I was a kid. Talk worst-case-scenario so that he could say, “There there, muchacho…it’s not as bad as that…”

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Lemme guess:. Deep State?

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Some do. Some just really like to stare into the abyss and share.

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There are posters who are genuinely frightened and need comfort…and do the doomsday bit…and respond positively to people trying to point out some things in our favor…

Others will not.

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WHat is evident to anyone who cares to see, is that cheatolini committed acts that would cause an ordinary citizen, and perhaps any private citizen, to be indicted. However, the orange obesity is President* and that seems to be the one case in law (and IANAL so feel free to correct me) where there may be some doubt as to the propriety of indicting. Therefore, Mueller handed off that issue to Congress, specifically the House, by providing a roadmap for investigation leading to Articles of Impeachment. What this does is sidestep the potential red herring of court challenges to the legality of indicting a sitting President* which could delay any proceedings indefinitely, possible moving the issue to the now gop packed SCOTUS.
Impeachment, OTOH, is beyond the reach of the right wing Justices* despite O.O.'s claims to the contrary. Now it’s time for the Dems to man (or woman, h/t to E. Warren) up and get the ball rolling. I, for one, think they will - perhaps more slowly and deliberately than many of us would wish, but inevitably nonetheless.

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Hmmmm. Sounds like a few attorneys should be talking to a House committee.

And I wish people would stop pushing the DOJ opinion that a sitting president cannot be indicted. That has no basis in actual law. The Constitution only says a president can only be removed by impeachment (and the just as difficult 25th amendment) or resignation. It does not say a president cannot be indicted. Senator Bob Menendez was indicted on federal corruption charges. He wasn’t impeached after he was indicted, and he didn’t resign. The executive branch is supposed to be equal to the legislative, so why can’t the chief executive be subject to the same treatment? The Justice Department sure as hell didn’t worry about an indictment impacting the ability of a senator to fulfill his duties, and a senator doesn’t have a back-up like a president has in a vice-president.

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To all those who are pleading with the Congress to begin impeachment proceedings yesterday, I will say only this; it ain’t over yet. The Mueller Report clearly lays out a case against the Current Occupant and since the DoJ will not prosecute, I believe the House will eventually vote a bill of impeachment. It may not go anywhere in the rubber stamp Senate, but just seeing Fatso put on trial will be enough for me.

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“Privately, the two prosecutors, who were then employed in the special counsel’s office, told other Justice Department officials that had it not been for the unique nature of the case—the investigation of a sitting president of the United States, and one who tried to use the powers of his office to thwart and even close down the special counsel’s investigation—they would have advocated that he face federal criminal charges.”

So, 45 years later, it turns out that Nixon was right all along.

The President is “as powerful a monarch as Louis XIV, only four years at a time”.

The Founders vomit in their graves.

(This piece-o’-crap DOJ “policy” of never indicting a sitting President needs to go – ASAP!)

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Along with Richard Nixon who cannot believe this.

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