Discussion: Report: Mueller Probing If Flynn Sought Clinton Emails From Russian Hackers

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So I take it Flynn hasn’t flipped on Trump.

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It would be poetic justice worthy of the gods if Hillary’s emails ended up bringing down Donald Trump.

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I find the timing of this story curious. I thought the investigators would be much further down the road with Flynn than this article indicates. Maybe Mr. Mueller & Company are planting some misinformation or sending a signal. Or maybe more likely I’m just over-anxious to turn the page on the Trump administration.

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I cannot help but note that if a guy who told the WSJ he’d helped close Clinton associates do anything even a tenth this nefarious had died under these circumstances, the right wing would be engaging in a veritable orgiastic slime wallow of rampant speculation that the Clinton Secret Murder Squad has struck again which the press would, with the greatest possible reluctance, be polluting the public space with speculation about the speculation because, hey, It’s Out There. And, of course, Dan Baquet would have dozens or reporters on the beat reporting every Congressional leak and every rumor as Important News.

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This week on “As The Flynn Turns”…alternatively–

“O what a tangled web we weave
When first we practice to deceive.”

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I just saw a post on another thread that has a link and I’ll go look for it but it appears Mueller has issued some grand jury subpoenas.

I wish they were indictments because it seems awfully late in the game to me too for this kind of revelation about Flynn.

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Lock. Him. Up.

He’ll flip.

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I would if I could.

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I want Flynn toasted like a marshmallow for his self-righteous hypocrisy, if for nothing else.

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I wouldn’t mind if they hung him for a traitor. He wore our uniform and this shit makes me sick.

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It’s a good article by Shane Harris. Here are two key quotes (there are others in the article).

The investigators’ inquiries show Mr. Mueller considers Mr. Smith’s effort to be potentially significant in the context of the wider probe into whether there was any collusion between people associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government.

U.S. officials with knowledge of the intelligence said investigators also have examined reports from intelligence agencies that describe Russian hackers discussing how to obtain emails from Mrs. Clinton’s server and then transmit them to Mr. Flynn via an intermediary.

The first passage tells me that the story which Harris first broke in May has been reviewed by Mueller and has been deemed very credible.

The second passage tells me that we have a newly ripe conspiracy and aid/abet angle. We’re not just talking about conspiracy to violate the Federal Election Campaign Act, but also conspiracy to commit hacking and to aid/abet in hacking (Hacking is a crime under federal law).

A third part of this piece is who Peter Smith says his contacts were in the campaign: Flynn Sr (+ Flynn Jr), Conway and Bannon. Shane Harris had reported in May (and talked to Rachel) that Smith seemed to have real time information about the inner workings of the day to day operations of the campaign. We know that Smith and Conway’s husband worked together to dig dirt up on Bill Clinton back in the 90s.

Another angle to this is what TR Ramachandran (@yottapoint) noted back in May: a clear similarity in the stories between two seemingly unrelated actors: Peter Smith and Roger Stone. Smith and Stone had separate, unrelated connects with the campaign (as far as we know). We don’t have any evidence that they worked together. Yet, each told the same story that HRC’s personal server was hacked, the emails were stolen, that Russians or Russian hackers had those emails, and that these hackers would give them to Wikileaks as the common release point to damage HRC. This also lines up with the Steele Dossier. Since Peter Smith and Roger Stone were not working together, it would stand to reason that they both heard about this potential scheme from a common source. I speculate that source is the Trump campaign itself. I suspect that Michael Flynn was the point man to carry out this aspect of the election conspiracy: work with Russian intelligence, their designated hackers, and Wikileaks to find HRC emails and release them to damage her campaign.

Given that Flynn worked, over nearly the same timeline, with the Erdogan gov’t to smear and orchestrate a potential kidnapping of an Erdogan political rival in Philly (Fetullah Gulen), this hardly seems far fetched.

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I wonder whatever happened to the Rosenbergs.

Any chance of Julius and Ethel doing the morning talk-show rounds this Sunday?

Just curious.

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The story of Peter Smith was revealed in May. This was likely a new lead that tied into what the Steele Dossier had said. Keep in mind, this story isn’t about the successful hacking of DNC/Podesta emails or the public release by the FBI. This is the unsuccessful attempt to hack into HRC’s server and grab 30k emails. This is about the pursuit of the urban legend which Putin put into the news cycles around January or Feb and which Fox picked up and which was the holy grail for the GOP.

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@tena
Double newsbomb weekend, Trump’s employers at NBC and Murdoch’s Minions at WSJ
Mr. “I don’t watch it much” subjected to blaring about the investigation and predictions of a possible Katrina in the making…

The asylum walls, and the iron bars…
Are closing in on Trump…
###On Many Sides; ON MANY SIDES!!!

ht:Napoleon XIV

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I don’t think Mueller needs Flynn to flip. Seth Abramson has a great tweet storm last night showing how Trump’s ‘stay strong’ was a signal to Flynn to not flip and Flynn stopped cooperating. Then the investigation gathered evidence and may not need Flynn to flip. Seth believes that Jeff Sessions has flipped and his deal is to avoid being indicted on perjury in exchange for cooperation.

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Trump: Flynn would be incompetent if he did not contact Putin for Crooked’s emails. I would have done it. Also, I got the more votes than anyone ever.

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Unfortunately, Drumpf is going to pardon Flynn no matter what he did.

You and @khyber900 are making my weekend.

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It’s Obama’s fault. If only he had promoted Flynn to the JCS he wouldn’t have had to go scraping for money from dictators.

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