Discussion: Report: Fox's Guilfoyle Pushed Out Over Abusive Behavior, Sexual Misconduct

Yep, assholes all the way down in Trumpland.

Hey, nobody ever said the Trumps had good judgment. Not even another Trump would say that.

Dong Jr. ended up with a woman who is as much a pig as his Dad. It’s like an inverted Oedipus complex.

Sorry if I misunderstood. You seemed to be pushing back on it being called sexual misconduct.

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Eh, could be either.

But it’s probably more like “A-list moneymaker” versus “Another Interchangeable Bimbo - and how did a non-blonde over 40 get hired, anyway?”.

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male genitalia- were they hers? his? its? :smirk:

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It was Don Jr. She probably thought they were pics of him in a turtleneck.

I mean, look at that face. It’s an easy mistake to make.

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would it be presumptuous of me to say, on behalf of normal people everywhere, “EEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!”

an i though this was the only female packing male genitalia

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Does anyone have her email address?

Looking for trouble?

And I cannot imagine any workplace that would tolerate such behavior Male or female
There would be attorneys waiting in the parking lot to cash in

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No and sorry myself but sometimes someone in all innocence brings something up you’ve been stewing about and it’s not about them but whoops you pop off. My point was always and only that Guilfoyle ugh that name is hard to type did a thing that’s in a range of things you can classify as sexual misconduct. But as wrong and bad as what she did is—any HR department would have a real serious talk with her about even one instance—when you say a person did “sexual misconduct” there’s a connotation of what I’ll have the temerity to say are worse things. If someone showed me pictures of something, I’d say look, that’s not appropriate and I’d prefer you didn’t. If someone pressured someone for sex to keep a job, that’s far worse. You can call it all sexual misconduct, you can call it all sexual harassment, you can always go to the next level of abstraction in discussing it. But I’m not arguing with the classification. I’m saying FOX could use that broad rubric in the knowledge that a lot of people would imagine the worst, and unfortunately very common, forms of sexual misconduct or harassment or what have you. Knowing it’s FOX I’d suspect it could be a deliberate thing that way. And if I didn’t make that clear from the beginning then I apologize but I like to make things clear before I let go of a thing and I wasn’t managing to achieve that clarity obviously. :no_mouth:

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her ex husband is a scumbag too so i guess water does seek its own level

Everyone should have the expectation that they will work in an environment that is not personally abusive. Forgive me, but I question whether anyone at Fox - including the folks doing hair and make-up - who voluntarily chooses to work for the aggressive propaganda arm of a right wing extremist movement that is doing everything it can to undo those expectations, and on so many issues is making the conditions of labor in America worse, can morally claim to have those expectations.

Unfortunately, cockroaches like her manage to persist despite their conduct and universal reputation as a… well… cockroach.

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Yeah, kind of like an article with this headline: The Duffer Brothers Respond to Claims of Abuse on the Set of Stranger Things1

You KNOW they were searching for clicks based on kids getting sexually molested by these now-famous people, rather than “employees got yelled at”.

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It is really kind of astounding.

I agree with your take of a graduated scale and that our terminology is probably deficient to describe every variant. I would not fire someone for a vulgar mistake and sophomoric misjudgements. If her showing pics to folks was aggressive and they said NO, that is a bit different than just saying OMG look at this if someone sent you a pic.

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Which actually would be funny except for the reports of the horrific abuse he suffered at the hands of both of his parents growing up. Clearly Jr. is so damaged he’s stuck in that pattern which, much as I despise him for multiple reasons, strikes me as tragic.

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