So if dems replace pelosi all that does is give the GOP a shiny new target.
Shorter Tim Ryan: I rather be a Republican.
Shut up. Just shut the FK up. If you âthinkâ Pelosi is the problem Tim, you havenât been paying attention. The cowardly GOP has to find a âboogiewomanâ because they donât have the balls to stand up and demonize men. If itâs not Pelosi, itâs Warren or hell, itâs Hillary because sheâs ALWAYS a good target. Instead of whining, groom future leaders, work hard and SHOW THE COUNTRY you are BETTER than the fear mongerers. STOP attacking your own party.
âIt Will Be âVery Hardâ To Win House With Pelosi In Leadership.â
Yep.
âThe thrust of our message needs to be an economic one.â
Hear, hear!
Challenge her Tim if youâve got the balls. You lost earlier but maybe youâll gain more votes. But otherwise, shut the fuck up. In the UK, they donât whine like this when they want to take a party leader out. They figure out if they can get support for a leadership challenge. If they donât have those votes, they shut up and fall in line. You should do the same. Put up or shut up.
âPelosi Derangement Syndromeâ = âHillary Derangement Syndromeâ
If both of these humans had testicles instead of ovaries but otherwise the same exact record, neither syndrome would exist.
âThese are really important, but when youâre going to be a national party, you need to have a national message. And whatâs the thing that binds all those groups together? Itâs an economic message,â
I realize that Tim Ryan wouldnât possibly understand this but I donât think Philando Castile would agree with this. Nor do I think that the women who live in a State with no Planned Parenthood clinics or the Muslim girl who was just kidnapped and beaten to death in VA. Sorry Tim but ânational Partyâ doesnât mean a message that concerns predominately White men.
(It would never occur to Tim that he could/would be demonized in the same way as Pelosi because testicles.)
Thereâs no doubt that (1) the core Republican ideology is a hatred of liberals; (2) Pelosi is a particularly powerful icon of their hatred. But even if Pelosi were to fall on her sword, Kamala Harris and/or Elizabeth Warren would pop up in her place as symbols for vilification. The disastrous Tim Kaine experiment also shows that mild-mannered white males are hardly a recipe for success.
The main reason for questioning Pelosiâs leadership is that she has been extremely ineffective and does very little to energize the Democratic base. Sheâs always one step behind the flow of events and never directing them. But this isnât the time to get into any of that. The midterms will be the test. Unless Pelosi and the Democratic leadership deliver a big win in optimal electoral conditions, the leadership will have to be changed. But not necessarily in order to pursue Ryanâs agenda.
It will be very hard to win if people on the left keep shooting at each other. Tim Ryan can go fuck himself.
Waving his hand furiously from his place on the back bench in the back of the room, âPick me, pick me!â âJust because Pelosi is a prodigious fund raiser and taps her wealthy friends in San Francisco doesnât mean I canât raise funds from my rich friends in Youngstown and Akron and build consensus!â âEasy peasy!â âMe, me!â
@nemo @musgrove @brooklyndweller @bluestatedon Phuckinâ A
She was ineffective as speaker of the house when Dems had control? And Tim Ryan and his lets focus on rural white men plan is going to energize the Dem base?
Rep. Ryanâ
Pelosi isnât responsible for national messaging. Thatâs the DNCâs job. Yes, the Demâs need to work on this, but donât pin it on Pelosi.
As for ads that tie D candidates to Pelosi, do you really think a change of leader will alter anything? That the Râs wonât find something else to bedevil? Grow up.
What are YOU doing to âto rebrand [the party] and focus more on developing a clear economic message, without losing sight of the partyâs historic emphasis on social issues,â.besides whining about Pelosi?
See, Republicans blame others even when the blame is on themselves. In contrast, Democrats tend to bash their own even when the blame is on somewhere else.
This self-defeating attitude, this masochism, is one of our real weaknesses.
Exactly the the reason Nancy Pelosi is so unpopular, is for the same reason that Hillary, the GOP and itâs allies have spent decades throwing all kind of mud in her direction. There is no reason to believe any other democratic leader would fare any better.
Didnât like him much before, but heâs definitely off my list now.
Okay, so let me see if I have this correct (by Timâs standard):
To win over the hearts of those folks in âAmericaâs Heartland,â we need a leader who doesnât hail from a liberal city (read âFuck San Franciscoâ).
But, Tim, if Americans are that dumb, wouldnât that just lose us many in the urban areas/the coasts â and possibly a large state? â You know, because if the leadership hails from a red state, then youâre going to lose us gays, many racial minorities, those in the blue states, etc.
Or is he implying itâs only those in Americaâs Heartland who are that dumb?
OR ⌠is it because Pelosi has a hoo-ha and not a willy?
And what is stopping Tim Ryan, from energizing the base? I donât see his ass going around and working to get people motivated, the only time i hear from him is when he is suppressing the base by taking pot shots at the DNC.
GOP strategy: demonize successful women long enough and eventually spineless âliberalsâ will follow. They really are a party scared shitless of cooties.
circular firing squad