Discussion for article #223757
Harry continues to take rightists to the heart of matters, and provide evidence that they come up heartless.
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It was a horrific crime AND it was terrorism. The purpose of the shooting/murders was to incite others to do the same thing and to instill fear in anyone who works for the government. That is terrorism.
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I think the junior senator from NV might fall in line this time around regardless of Boehnerās weasel words.
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Yes, the response of the right keeps coming up heartlessā¦ and gutless. I suppose if it were a bomb, they would be quick to jump on the terrorism bandwagon and declare it was Pres. Obamaās fault for not protecting us.
The fact that it was guns used for ādomestic terrorismā in Las Vegasā¦ whoa, better pull that back because āwe donāt want to upset the NRA by linking guns to any kind of terrorism acts.ā
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But, the terrorists are patriots! Heller said so!
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News of the day:
Archbishop Unsure Whether He Knew Sex with Children Was Crime.
Boehner Wonāt Call Las Vegas Shootings āDomestic Terrorismā.
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Dudeā¦they were calling for a revolution, thinking they were starting one. There is no doubt that it was political in nature and aimed at changing the government through violent acts. That is the definition used in the PATRIOT Actā¦perhaps the most extreme example possible.
Boehner screwed the pooch with his comments. Good on Harry for adding a little salt to keep the story alive.
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Sigh. Right-wingers have been making martyrs of these antigovernment terrorists for a long time. Speaker of the House Boehner can not call people his party encourages terrorists.
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Only an apologist for domestic terrorists would deny the applicability of > 18 U.S. Code Ā§ 2331:
(5) the term ādomestic terrorismā means activities thatā
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intendedā
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
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Obviously a person that doesnāt know the difference between terrorism and plain lunacy doesnāt need to be the Senate majority leader. Or a to be a Senator for that matter. Competency is required.
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Itās too bad the NRA successfully lobbied Congress to defund the CDCās efforts to study gun violence, the results of which could have informed the public not to arm individuals like this without risking a jail sentence for endangering the lives of police and civilians.
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They said, āthe revolution starts now!ā and they went after policemen. How can you NOT label it terrorism? the crime was about politics. Period.
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Way to go Harry. Letās call it what it is and letās admit that this stuff only happens when there is a democratic president in office. I didnāt hear a peep out of these scumbags when Bush was in office.
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Letās quickly revive and pass the bi-partisan Senate background check bill before awakening partisan defenses, Harry! Give 'em hell after you override the filibuster!
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Proof your support of illegal spying, detention, and assassination as a result of that spying doesnāt work.
Huh? Iām sorry, Iām not sure if Iām a TPM NSA apologist or not, but if I can parse your mangled syntax, it seems youāre definitely against the NSA spying, etcā¦unless itās used against the right people. Have I got that right? If so, I should point out that, as far as I can tell, blanket support for the NSA is not de rigueur among TPM people. Mostly because anyone having that kind of apparatus and infrastructure canāt be trusted to use it wisely, no matter which side theyāre on. And domestic terrorism like this falls under the FBIās jurisdiction, as it should.
And Iām sure Josh Marshall will be surprised to know heās a paid lackey of the CHEMICAL corporation. Iād ask for clarification, but I really donāt careā¦
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Of course, because guns were involved. And white folks!
Terrorism only relates to brown people and bombs.
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Bingo!!!
Why are you here?
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9/11 was a horrific crime. It was also terrorism. Funny how Boehner thinks these are mutually exclusive activities. Yes, yes, by all means these were just a couple of patriotic Americans using their 2nd amendment rights to correct something they could not fix at the ballot box. Right, Sarah Palin?
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