Discussion for article #223308
I’m not really hip to the whole Twitter thing, but does this sort of stunt ever NOT end up being hijacked 100-to-1 by whatever the other side of the argument is?
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I don’t tweet, but I do love how often PR firm attempts manipulate Twitter blow up in their clients’ faces. It’s like they don’t get that snark and 144 characters go together like bacon and tomato.
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Look…this isn’t rocket science sports fans. The team is the RED Skins.
Just take that a step further and imagine your favorite team was:
The Yellow Skins
or
The Black Skins
or
The Brown Skins
or
The Spics, Wops, (fill in your favorite racial epithet.)
Are you defending this because you truly believe in it, or because you think this is simply a “liberal” stunt and you’ll defend anything if that is the case…regardless of how stupid your stance is?
Change the name…it is indefensible and an embarrassment…and get on with life.
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Redskins is bad but they are not alone in teams that need to change their names. I’m looking at you…
Utah Jazz…
Los Angeles Lakers…
Minnesota Wild…
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Re: Hall of Worthies
"I told one of my colleagues that it might be interesting to assemble the list of all these guys. He suggested Ben Carson, the famed neurosurgeon turned Republican crazy guy, as another example. But I’m sort of on the fence on whether he fits the category. "
But Josh…dear dear Josh…you missed it. Ben Carson DOES hate some “historically or currently discriminated against group”: HIS OWN.
The phenomenon of people like him, or Black Scalia, is that they fervently do not want to be associated with their own people, want to be seen as having risen and separated to the top like the crème they believe so vehemently that they are. They despise their own people and what they perceive association with them does to their own “unique specialness.” They despise the idea that things like affirmative action may have helped them, not their own rugged individualism and shining grandeur. When they talk about things like the “Democrat plantation” they are broadcasting their narcissistic belief that they are better that their racial brethren, that they have “escaped” while the rest “wallow,” helpless, feckless and lost. Their espousal of conservatism and its policies that are so damaging to their own communities are their way of distancing themselves and setting themselves apart, of trying to give almost physio-ideological form to their narcissistic delusions of grandeur. Ben Carson and his ilk fit right in with the rest of the Hall of Worthies, even based on that common core of having a hatred or disdain for a historically discriminated against group. It just happens to be they belong to group…and desperately desperately don’t want to.
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Nice. I like that they hijacked the twitter feed.
What I don’t like is that the democrats didn’t give the GOP a chance to sign the damn letter. What a mistake. If they don’t sign you have a bunch of senators saying they don’t care about racism. If they do sign, then you have more support for your cause. If you don’t ask them to sign, you should how political this was as opposed to actually caring about the issue. Of all the options, the democrats chose the only one that makes them look bad. SMH.
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When it’s actually a worthy cause and has a lot of support they don’t fail. These clumsy PR departments who try this type of stuff think all you need to do is make a hashtag though. Once a hashtag catches on, ANYONE can use it. Haven’t seen one this spectacularly fail since #MyNPYD. or #AskChase or #AskChevron…
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The Onion did a nice article on this: http://www.theonion.com/articles/redskins-kike-owner-refuses-to-change-teams-offens,34292/
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Institutionalized racists are nothing if not shameless.
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I’m wondering how “several” tweets is significant? Are we so lacking real news that “several” tweets is a front page story?
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The heading says it all. Hilarious!
Redskins’ Kike Owner Refuses To Change Team’s Offensive Name
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I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: the Right just doesn’t seem to have a facility with Twitter and I believe that’s due in large part because they don’t understand how it’s used and what it’s used for.
Social media, in general, is not the same as hate radio: you don’t simply spew your bile out there and just get the most adoring feedback from your admirers. As Coultergeist found out. In addition, social media tends to be dominated by younger, more liberal folks who aren’t using the medium simply to rag on others. Sure, it happens but the medium serves *a wider purpose.*The Right doesn’t get that; for them, it’s JUST a forum to slam the left.
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Weren’t blankets with smallpox given to the Indians when the Europeans arrived on this land? Bad analogy.
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#BLT&mayo w/toast&dilpkl
Check out that hashtag on Twitter. The use of it is OVERWHELMINGLY negative toward the team’s efforts, often quite pointedly and not full of snark. It’s not “several” at all.
In fact, I think this PR attempt by the team has got more people discussing the issue than ever before.
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You mean to tell me that Utah isn’t a hotbed of jazz composition and musicianship?
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The NFL needs to force the issue- the team has one year to either change their name or their new mascot will be Spuddy the Red-skinned Potato!
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I’m telllin’ ya, I made up the best new name for the team:
The Washington Independents!
You could abbreviate that to the “Indies.” And it’s got a good sound. The helmet could be red on the left, blue on the right–or maybe just purple. Whatever. Why is no one listening to me!?
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Not that there are many things that don’t go with bacon, of course. All goes back to the fundamental culinary law that there is no known food that can’t be improved by the addition of at least one the three universal additives: bacon, cheese and chocolate.
The number of things that can be improved by the addition of two of those things is amazing, though only a tiny handful can be improved by the addition of all three.
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