Discussion: Red State Editor On MSNBC: The Right Is 'Blowing It' On Ferguson

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And here I was getting all fired up to start trashing Dick Lic… and then this guy wrecks it for me by saying something I agree with. Just goes to show you that there are reasonable people on both sides.

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Methinks Wolf doesn’t understand his audience.

That said, good for him for being bright and honest enough to admit these things and speak against the dogmatic, knee-jerk RWNJ position. I give him a B+. I’d give him an A if he connected the dots and admitted that the apparent disconnect is a result of the combination of rampant, pervasive racism and deeply ingrained plutocratic economic ideology in the conservative movement. Some of them just want blacks to be “put and kept in their place” and some of them just see convenient victims for keeping taxes low and further redistributing the nation’s wealth upwards…and for some it’s both.

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Indeed. I want my sane opposition back.

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Not sure that’ll happen in either of of our lifetimes (grasshopper!). :wink:

jw1

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It’s nice to know that some Conservatives understand the problem…you know, it’s like Ted Olsen. I remember getting a lot of angry people yelling at me for supporting his and Bois’ challenge to Prop 8.

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HeadlineFix:

Red State Editor On MSNBC: The Right Is ‘Blowing It’.

With gusto.

jw1

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Conservative ideology is just a horse they ride into power. The quest and maintenance of power is what they are about, so they relate more to the ‘power elite’ of Ferguson, not the proletarians. Being anti-Govt abuse gets thrown out the window when convenient.

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Well, looks like RedState will be looking for a new editor.

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I saw his comments last night. He has a good point if you look at the world as a real conservative. Using the police to extract money from the community is simply not conservative. On the other hand a lot of conservatives are more interested in maintaining their positions of privilege than in advancing conservative principles. His argument proves there are no pure conservatives outside Washington think tanks and publications.

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‘No Conservative On Earth’ Should Be Defending Ferguson PD’

And yet, they are. What does that tell you?

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Probably not, given that demographic shifts are going to continue marginalizing the GOP/Teatrolls. Frankly, I know it’s hard for people to wrap their head around it, because I have the same trouble, but I think we have to realize that the past 6+ years of temper tantrum was just the sniffles before the real storm.

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agreed. appearing on MSNBC and not at least poking someone in the eye will be on Erick’s staff meeting agenda today.

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I don’t buy the notion that conservatives are more concerned with civil rights - maybe their own but certainly not others" rights.

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This is a nice way of putting it…

So conservatives are attuned to civil rights issues. I suppose that is correct. I mean somebody has to commit those civil rights violations for liberals to protest against.

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Indeed. Nice characterization. For decades now it has been the cover for the nastiest elements of American politics – corporate greed and bigotry. A woman of my acquaintance recently described her deeply bigoted parents as “really conservative”.

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Aww how cute. Wolf actually thinks his fellow conservatives can muster up the will to give a crap about what happens to black people, instead of their default belief that all those criminal darkies had it comm’n.

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The sun rises, the wind blows, and the Ferguson PD is corrupt and racist.
These are things we now know (thanks DOJ).

So, again… which of these is Fox or Repubs questioning?

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They’re very concerned about rights such as open carry everywhere, the right to impose your religion on heathens, the right to inspect your womb, the right to discriminate in business … righties defend lots of rights!!

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Good for him, but characterizing knee-jerk conservative support for the Ferguson PC as “ideological tribalism” is far too charitable. There’s nothing ideological about it.

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