Discussion: Rachel Dolezal Speaks Out: 'I Identify As Black'

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I really don’t see the problem with her saying she feels a cultural identification with blacks (or whites or Asians or First Nations or anything else). If she had simply been honest about who her parents were this would be a big fat nothing. Given that she was hardly a major national figure, but simply President of a local chapter in a fairly small metro area, the story hardly merits the attention it’s been getting.

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“I certainly don’t stay out of the sun,” she responded, adding that she does not "put on blackface as a performance."

Well, if not for performance, then why do you put it on?

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It’s also garnering a lot of attention because of the many hate crimes that she has reported over the years don’t add up – that’s according to the various police reports. Also the fact she sued a university claiming they discriminated against her because she was white – that was before she started living life as a black person.

Personally, I don’t really have much issue with her identifying with black Americans as fighting for justice is a very noble endeavor. However, it’s the lies about hate crimes, the fake hate letters sent to her, etc., and the seat on the police commission she obtained in part because she told them she is black. It’s those sorts of things I find really unfortunate in this saga. I actually believe she might have mental health issues, certainly issues with her parents and her upbringing – but that’s between her and her parents. If she does have mental health issues, I sincerely hope she seeks and receives proper treatment.

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Yeah, she likely has mental health issues, but so what? At the end of the day she is a minor figure-head of a small-city branch of an NGO. So why is this a #1 national story?

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Girl, please!

She is claiming she is a minority on legal documents. Do you have a problem with that? Minorities are given certain protections and advantages for a reason. She’s white. She already has a fair shake.

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I admit it is a strange one, for sure. Simple answer to your question is the media is so profit-driven nowadays; if any story–no matter the details–garners the clicks, it will move up the chain and gain the attention of the larger audiences. That, and strange or odd human interest stories always have the strong potential to pull in the clicks. Psychologically, it helps the larger majority to validate their own beliefs that they aren’t the weird ones.

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Now I really regret not trying to pursue my dream to become one of The Famous Flames.

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Or a Fly Girl on “In Living Color.”

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“I certainly don’t stay out of the sun,” she responded,

Yes, because if you want to acquire a dark tan that will allow you to pass for African-American, there’s no place like the Pacific Northwest.

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I actually have a problem with preferences based on race, since the entire concept of race is questionable at heart. If we want to give preference to the disadvantaged, base it on class, which is the real factor. There is no need to favor the child of black millionaires over poor people of any color.

The categories that get preferences are poorly defined anyway. Is a person whose ancestry is from Spain or Argentina, for example, disadvantaged as a Hispanic?

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Could this not be considered similar to cross-dressers? or a person whose mental gender does not match their physical gender?

Is this so difficult for supposed “aware” 'merikan’s?

I identify as 3 ducks in a man-costume.

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Nutball.

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She’s nothing but a scammer and grifter who recognized that American societal definitions of who’s black and who’s not have always been malleable, and took advantage of that. The ease with which she brazenly lied and reversed position after suing Howard for discrimination against whites indicates that she’s probably a bit of a sociopath.

This story will fade relatively quickly.

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Since I am neither a cross-dresser nor a transgender person (though these are two totally different things), I don’t feel I have any kind of expert opinion here.

I do consider myself an open-minded person, at least as it pertains to society as we know it today. That said, I truly am not aware of any even tiny segment of society who feels they can claim to be of or from another ethnicity when, in fact, they are not from that background in any substantial way. If there are any scientifically-collected data on this phenomenon being a real construct or in any way an organic condition, etc. (if that makes any type of sense), then I’ll be open to educating myself on the facts.

Otherwise, given what we’ve been told about the differing stories of this lady’s upbringing, the details of her childhood and her (seemingly false) hate crime reporting, I’m sticking with my belief she has mental issues.

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Initially it should have been a brief national story, that’s it. But now we find out all the other stuff. The lying about being black is nothing compared to the other things she did, including some that are being investigated for which she could eventually be charged.

I’m curious about this abuse case. She has already made stuff up about people. Did she coach the child to turn an uncle’s hug into “assault” as another act of hatred against her family, like accusing her parents of using a baboon whip on her? Maybe the kid was fond of the uncle, and that pissed her off? Who knows. But it definitely needs to be looked at for sure. We’ll see what the trial brings out. If the uncle did it, fine. But if she made stuff up again, she should be tossed in jail. So stuff like that keeps this in the news.

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Indeed. Affirmative action programs need to be overhauled to reflect class. Help the poor. If most of them are minorities, fine. The Romney family recently adopted a black child. I’d say that child has a huge advantage over almost all black kids, and poor people in general.

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Not quickly enough.

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