Discussion for article #234709
I understand that, before the crash, some passengers on the Germanwings flight that went down could be heard screaming.
- Really? I heard that only came from a prosecutor, with no further details.
-> Yeah, well, when you read that plus “Prosecutor:” in the headline, that’s because the person who slaved for hours over the news post wants us all to understand that this was something that a prosecutor said, not something the reporter himself or herself or any independent reporter or person of any description heard.
<- Wow, that’s a lot more background detail that it strictly within the text of this news post. Shouldn’t we all be waiting for some greater depth of detail before jumping to conclusions from this?
- If that’s how you want to roll, fine. Me, I’ve only got precious milliseconds left in my current attention account and the shifting news cycle eats at that like acid corroding a weakly bound metal.
I REALLY do appreciate this article (report?), it’s VERY enlightening. Because, you know, it’s good to know if before a crash people scream or they keep quiet.
This guy should STFU and let the investigators do their work. Sensational stuff like this, tossed out to the media, doesn’t do anything constructive.
Here’s a more or less complete news story. ETA If you don’t have time to click through to the BBC story it appears possible the pilot left the cabin and the copilot locked him out and deliberately put the plane in a descent toward the mountains. Rare but not unheard-of.
I hope at least one voice at AP argued that it would be irresponsible and ridiculous to throw this one lurid sentence out there with no context at all. I can understand the pressure for a dinosaur like a wire service to remain relevant in 2015 but that’s just sad.
Thank you for the link to the BBC. Much more information available there.
Sad, sad day when someone intentionally kills themselves and hundreds of others.
Wow, what an ignorant comment. If, for instance, a window had blown out and all the air was gone, all the passengers would be unconscious. The screaming means that they were conscious.
Does that help your understanding? If people would attempt to understand the significance of a fact, they might make fewer … comments.
If this is a case of the pilot deliberately crashing the plane, that will be a dreadful thing. Because it will require far more concern about pilots, and far more careful team planning. For instance, if the co-pilot was alone, this outcome could have been prevented by refusing to allow the co-pilot to be alone. That would be a situation in which 3-person crews would be required going forward. Or that a cabin staff member sit in the control seats while a person uses the bathroom. If it is a human factor, the implications are pretty difficult.
I went to BBC for good coverage too.
That is the U.S airlines policy. If pilot or co-pilot leaves cockpit a person from cabin crew sits in that seat while they are in bathroom or whatever.
I go to Le Monde, but that’s only because it allows me to show my continental sophistication.
(Actually, it’s very good, and it gives me a chance to practice my French reading.)
But TPM- why this ¨article¨ ? Why that headline?
Worthless.
Edit: TPM has added an article to the headline that wasn’t there to begin with. Before, the body of the ¨article¨ was not much more than repeating the headline.
Facebook page “wiped”. Hardly.
I hope those assclowns on MSNBC are forced to apologise on the air for their speculative bullshit which has already been proven utterly false and with little basis in reality.
That said, I was hoping that this was NOT then reason the plane went down. This is the worst-case scenario: an intentional crashing.
US coverage has been shitty, to say the least. I’ve been getting my updates from Reuters and SkyNews.