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Its a wonderfully warm spring night here in Michigan. I hope the neighbors don’t mind the fireworks I just launched.
Red white and YUUUUGE!
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People that support Hillary in the primary don’t care about making a political statement, they just want to win the nomination and getting 50% plus 1 in November and for her to put a center left judge on the Supreme Court.
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Like the value of “confidence” at the stock market, the value of “momentum” in politics is hard to overestimate.
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Congratulations to Bernie Sanders.
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I wonder what Bill Clinton feels in the pit of his stomach tonight?
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This upset is more than weird…so Wayne County, MI. gets the Flint City treatment from the Michigan power-brokers tonight. I tell you something smells!
Of course. It’s not possible that some people just don’t like Hillary right?
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So do the Michigan super delegates reassess their positions?
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Bill probably feels pretty good about the results in Mississippi. So Hillary will win the most delegates tonight and Bernie will slip a few delegates further behind But at least the media still has a horse race. Bernie isn’t likely to win the nomination when it’s a close race in one state and a blowout in another. I’m at not saying it won’t happen since elections have become harder to predict. But, Bernie needs blowouts in big states and so far that hasn’t happened. The big state primaries have been too close to gain many delegates.
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Interesting exit polling at CNN: People who think public water quality is a serious issue favored Sanders; those who think race relations are worsening favored Sanders; people favored Sanders to improve race relations over Hillary.
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I’m just reading and learning that Michigan has an open primary, and that Hillary won among Democrats while Bernie trounced with Independents. The delegate split does not appear to be that large. The counts suggest that Hillary has a modest lead among Dems while Bernie has a significant lead among Independents (and perhaps undecideds). By party standards, this is probably still a victory for Hillary, but it may suggest a more open acceptance of Bernie in a General Election. Also, some are suggesting that a large number of Republicans took advantage of the open primary and voted for Bernie to try and squash Hillary. Thoughts?
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Scary, extremists winning.
This horse race thing just baffles me. How can we say Bernie Sanders won Michigan when the delegates are evenly split between Bernie and Hillary? Will there be a sudden death event or something that breaks what looks to be a statistical tie? or is it genuinely a tie and all you media guys just can’t bring yourselves to call it that…
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My husband and I both voted for Bernie in Michigan today. It was great to see him do so well across the state. Bernie voters that I have encountered are very enthusiastic, but I do not sense a strong sense of devotion and excitement among the Hillary supporters that I have spoken with. I will happily vote for Hillary in the general but I have strong concerns about voter turnout with her at the top of the ticket.
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that’s being presumptive.
Sanders campaign is still somewhat Fabian, in that the pressure is on her as opposed to him. However the majority of Sanders wins came from caucuses. The onus is now back on her.
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Sanders campaign is still somewhat Fabian, in that the pressure is on her as opposed to him. However the majority of Sanders wins came from caucuses. The onus is now back on her.
I mentioned this on the other thread, but 538 reported exit polling saying that for the Republican primary, 7% were crossover Dems voting; while for the Dem side, only 3% crossover Republicans voting.
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Nah. I could be critical tonight of Hillary cause I’m actually disappointed now that she didn’t make a better showing and I think now she could have tried harder in other areas around the state…like how did she not get Traverse City? She limited herself to a few counties in eastern MI, understandably…but she really could’ve taken GR from Bernie. It is the second largest city in the state. There are other things I notice now that I’m being overly-judgemental about why she didn’t pull it off, but I think I should probably sleep on it. I didn’t see any Hillary signs here either which should have told me something right there. The primary was an open primary and that was weird. They should probably go back to closed primaries. Also Hillary opened up a campaign office only 3 weeks ago…but so did Bernie. Eh, whatever. How did they get it so wrong??
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I mentioned this on the other thread, but 538 reported exit polling saying that for the Republican primary, 7% were crossover Dems voting; while for the Dem side, only 3% crossover Republicans voting. So this theory doesn’t exactly hold water, at least if we’re to believe the polls (which are looking pretty shaky after this big of an upset!).
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