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We fear Syrian refugees that might have one in 10 thousand terrorist, yet let our homegrown terrorists buy military grade weapons at will. Impossible to comrehend
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God damned America.
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As the micro-world that far right tea party republicans live in diverges farther and farther from reality, itās just getting harder and harder to fathom what passes for reason in their infected brains. There is no justification for senseless murder like this, whether committed by ISIS, Al Qaeda or paramilitary tea party groups. Itās not idealogical, itās the Manson Family with unlimited guns at their disposal, seizing on whatever convenient insane idea some demagogue furnishes them with. A worldwide tragedy unfolding. Itās just called murder, nothing else.
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If guns were outlawed, maybe white-male outlaws couldnāt have guns.
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amen to that i just heard the police conference at least 14 dead
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Is it possible for the supreme court to reinterpret the 2nd Amendment in a way that makes sense on any planet other than Planet America? No snark, that was an actual serious question. With the assumption that Clinton wins, could a democratic leaning supreme court do itāassuming that she is able to appoint like minded justices? Yes, I know, Iām looking at the long game here, but right now, we donāt have anything else.
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First question: there would have to be a āslam dunkā case that even a positive majority couldnāt ignore.
Simply: nope. At last check (mea culpa placed on the table) Heller is the prevailing opinion.
TPM:
President Barack Obama told CBS News on Wednesday that an unfolding mass shooting in San Bernardino was yet another in a āpatternā of such shootings in the United States āthat has no parallel anywhere else in the world.ā
Unparalleled! Weāre Number One! In mass shootings!
Wait, thatās not a good thing, is it?
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Second question: push
Gridlock (via filibuster) awaits any potential gun control nominee.
Especially if that person is a Clinton nominee.
Iām pondering what would be a slam dunk case, and truthfully, after so much carnage, I canāt imagine one anymore.
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Yes, it is. The current belief that the 2nd amendment guarantees a personal right to own arms (i.e., outside of a well-regulated state militia) is a very recent interpretation.
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I wish the worthless pieces of S&*T in Congress had the stones to work toward some meaningful form of gun regulations with the zeal they pursue political crap like overturning the ACA instead of doing anything to amend and make it better.
The thought of what is becoming just another day in America, using guns to murder innocent and defenseless mentally challenged human beings in San Bernadino has me shaking Iām so angry.
What next in our white domestic terrorists agenda? Maybe shooting up the nursery full of newborns in a hospital?
These people have no religion and no politics. And terrorists from the middle east do not hide their identities with ski masks.
They are homegrown white boys.
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Thatās the thing
Does the San Bernardino and Newtown tragedies provide sufficient grounds to establish a safety debate in regards to the justices?
Right now any answer would reveal the courtās clear division.
I donāt know either. The only thing I can imagine would be a slam-dunk case is one that sets the Second Amendment against some other Constitutional clause - for instance, if someoneās right to own a gun was taken away as a condition of parole after using it to lead a rebellion against the federal govāt, which would pit the 2nd Amendment against Congressās Article 2 Section 8 power to suppress insurrections.
But Iām not a lawyer, nor do I see how such a case could even get to the Supreme Court.
So heās going to confiscate our guns this time, right?
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Unfortunately, that probably is next. Or maybe shooting mothers and children in a shelter for women escaping abusive husbands.
When we, as a country, did nothing after Sandy Hook, it really set a new low in governmental irresponsibility and Conservative gun fetishism.
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Except in order to stop these shootings, we would have to confiscate the guns especially the automatic killer weapons - there are just too many guns in this country - over 300,000,000 - one for every person and we know the crazies have arsenals of weapons and artillery
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Well, short of confiscating 300,000,000 guns, we could certainly pass some stringent laws that would make it far more difficult to purchase ammunition.
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Inversion: Simply: nopeā¦Heller is the prevailing opinion.
This is completely wrong. Heller or any other precedent can be substantially modified or gutted or overturned if there is a Supreme Court that wants to do that. The Supreme Court does this only rarely blah blah but they always can do it and all they need to it is 5 votes.
A relatively recent case was in 2007 - the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that manufacturers can set minimum price standards for retailers if they encourage competition, overturning about a century of precedent. Citizenās United overturned Supreme Court precedent also, on a 5-4 basis.
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