Discussion: Poll: Only About 1 In 4 Wants Trump To Repeal Obamacare

Just another case that proves there should be tighter restrictions on who is allowed to vote.

Now any ill informed voter can drag their knuckles into the polling place. If, six months prior to an election, prospective voters were forced to take a test on current affairs and civics, we would stand a much better chance to have “intelligent” election outcomes.

I know this suggestion will upset some, but let’s face it "democracy and the Constitution have brought us Donald “the draft dodging coward” Trump. That should be enough to convince people that a change is warranted.

When did polling stop being accurate?

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Look, all they want is: their money for nuthin’ and their checks* for free…

*(insurance)

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HAHAHA!

Again, I think many people are going to be surprised by the complete lack of any actual legislative plans coming out of the White House. That requires far more detail than Trump cares to put into anything, and requires far too much input from subject matter experts than Trump could ever tolerate. So he will simply take a pass on the whole notion and instead just send out tweets about what he doesn’t like.

Which will inevitably involve nearly every bill that Ryan/McConnell try to put together. They are both going to become extremely frustrated very early on.

Because at his core, Trump is the guy who snipes from the sidelines. That is his comfort zone. Actually pushing through an agenda inevitably involves taking fire from guys like Trump, and we all know that he can’t tolerate criticism. So he will avoid it, and dish it out in 140 character dollops instead.

So no, there will be no “Medicare for all” or any other huge health care initiative coming out of the White House.

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November 8, 2016.

Directly responsible

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Agreed that a lot of people simply voted against Hillary. But in doing so, they also voted against their own self interest over mostly manufactured scandals, and put a man with the demeanor and brain capacity of a child into our highest office. These are sad and scary times we’re living in.

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Really? Because she won the popular vote by a margin bigger than W. did either time. And by not much less than Obama did.

People need to stop treating this election as if it was some wave election with a clear statement by voters. It wasn’t. Hillary lost the election tactically…by roughly 100,000 votes spread across 3 states. It was not a referendum on Hillary, or Obama…100,000 votes does not a wave make.

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In other words, we hate the individual mandate, but we love everything we get for having the individual mandate. So, just like everything else: I want more services and lower taxes, please!

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Why don’t we just repeal it in the Confederate states (with a hefty fine for anyone who dares to whisper “Obamacare…”). They don’t need big government telling them to get healthcare, just big government interfering with private businesses.

Besides, they have prayer to shrink their fat asses.

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I dunno, @thx1138 . Kinda warming up a bit to some of this:

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If that hand represents what becomes of the Republican party after the man they pushed into the Presidency wrecks the lives of everybody who isn’t a billionaire, deal me in!

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By now you should realize that a candidate’s personality/charisma/it factor matters. This is why Hillary was never a good Presidential candidate. Reading stories post election about her campaign resisting Bill’s suggestions confirms Hillary’s being tone deaf when it comes to campaigning for President.

I stated this during the campaign and continue to believe it is embarrassing that Hillary lost this election to Trump. She also dragged down other Dem’s. It was a reversal of the thinking Trump would do to the GOP.

Hindsight being 20/20. Hillary and Bill were arrogant for her to even run after the e-mail server issue came up. The Clinton’s stood down and helped Obama in 2008 and 2012. It was hard for the Democrat party to say no to her in 2016. But for the party and country considering what has now happened. Hillary never should have run and VP Biden not Bernie should have been the nominee. Biden actually is able to relate to those rural voters and he would have taken sexism off the table.

A Biden/Warren 2016 ticket looks pretty good in hindsight.

The poll found majorities across party lines support many of the health care law’s provisions, but not its requirement that individuals have coverage or risk fines, and its mandate that medium-to-large employers pay fines if they don’t offer health insurance.

The poll also found broad support for eating dessert, but not vegetables.

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Oct. 30: Oh, yeah, man. Gotta get rid a that Obummercare. Socialism. Repeal and replace, baby. Trump that bitch!

Nov. 30: Wait, say what, now?

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I’m sorry Trump voters, do you really think Paul Ryan gives a flying fuck what you want? Because he doesn’t. Period.

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I’m all for the blue states banding together and creating their OWN health care plan - a single payer plan.

Let the red states rot.

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I like this idea. One modification. Let individuals in red states buy in. Let R’s rot, not whole states. Call it the Sanity Coalition.

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People will either get use to minority rule in the house, senate and POTUS, or they will go crazy, or they will revolt.

I know that feels good to say…but what is the criteria for red state and blue state? Florida? Ohio? Pennsylvania? Michigan? Wisconsin? New Hampshire? What about Georgia and Arizona? Hell, even Texas shifted bluer from 2012?

Or do you mean merely the safe blue ones like California, New York, Massachusetts? Do you use the Presidential map, or the state legislative maps? Governorship perhaps? If so, what about New Jersey, which has a governor’s election in less than a year? (Virginia does too). You do know we have Democratic Senators in places like Montana and Missouri, right? Shoot we almost got 2 Democratic Senators from Missouri.

I am sorry but this is that safe blue state bullshit about throwing out everyone on the actual front lines that have been turning states purple blue for a long time. And its precisely the wrong message for right now, when we need to be laser focused on winning back state legislature and governor mansions ahead of the 2020 census.

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