Discussion: Police Union Threatens To Boycott 49ers Games Over Anthem-Protesting Player

From the SCPOA’s threatening letter:

“Our members have the right to do their job in an environment free of unjustified and insulting attacks.”

Horse puckey. The police, like the military, are sworn to do their jobs. Their job is to go where they are told to go and do what they are told to do. While they should be mindful of their personal safety, there is nothing anywhere in the job description that guarantees them freedom from a hostile environment. If they are frightened to go to an area where someone refuses to stand during the national anthem, they should all be fired and replaced with officers who are made of sterner stuff.

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"No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave."
— last verse of “The Star-spangled Banner”

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That’s it. I’m done. Vale.

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Well, at least they didn’t beat him, cuff him, and shoot him in the back of the head while claiming their lives were in imminent danger.

So I guess that’s an improvement from standard practice.

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I call it extortion.

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Can’t tell the morons here without a score card.

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Move to the Soviet Union you dip shits, this is the United States of America.

This sure makes a lot of sense, doesn’t it?
One man expresses an opinion that some the police don’t find to their liking, and the whole union threatens to not provide security for the 49’r games, literally endangering the safety of thousands.
Tell me…how many did the actions of Kaepernick endanger?
Just who gave the police the right to make this kind of threat?

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One of the The Times top comments of the week…

The very thing that makes America great is our right to free expression, but don’t try to use it or you will be called un-American.

— Elisabeth King on The Times’s Facebook page

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I have a co-worker who’s a retired cop. He said he was clearing better than $200K annually working security at public events. (wow, that sounds like the beginning of a spam post.) He had the arrest power, the backing of the other on and off duty cops, the car, and the uniform, but he was getting paid by the venues. He had his choice of events within a hundred-mile radius of home, and would sometimes pit event promoters against each other to score more money.

My point is, I wonder how many of these cops are actually on duty and how many are getting paid extra bucks to be there. My bet is that, union or no, hurt fee-fees or no, they’ll show up to keep collecting those nice extra checks regardless of what happens at the game.

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One guy at a football game sitting down during the national anthem and the police union is going to stop protecting the people of San Francisco at the games? Thats really unbelievable. This seems like a very disportionate response. This is a clear First Amendment issue. Accept it and play ball.

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A person of color kneels down and says what is in his heart. That is first amendment speech. The “Pigs” decide that everyone in their sty might not guard the innocent because they are upset with one person saying what is in their heart. They are upset because one person spoke truth to power and now that power is trying to punish him by creating an environment that could hurt innocents. To hurt innocent people shows you how they use their power to hurt people not involved. Imagine the power of the "pigs that is so strong they can beat down one person because their “feelings” got hurt. Think about this thousands of “pigs” against one person. They know the truth is a sword and their reaction to it is weak and hateful.

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It’s all volunteer work, off-hours.

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Jesus Christ, a lot of cops have razor-thin Trump skin.

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The police officers working security at NFL games are almost certainly NOT acting as on-duty officers. They are probably working in an off-duty status under a contract with the stadium management, under a deal that allows them to wear their on-duty uniforms, carry their weapons, and perform arrests, etc. when necessary.

This is a common thing when venues like stadiums, etc, regularly have to deal with troublesome individuals and issues. I worked regular unarmed security at an upscale office/shopping development that eventually had to supplement our unarmed guys with uniformed off-duty police officers to deal with our worst issues.

(The development had two very popular bars, catering to over-privileged, over-moneyed young pricks who thought there were no consequences to anything they did; the bars also routinely over-served their customers, so drunks-with-attitude were endemic. AND we had “Taxi Wars” going on, with drivers from different companies cutting each other off, shouting matches, fights, and in one instance a driver backing his cab into another driver standing behind him. Oh, fun days, those were…)

So, if the off-duty officers at the stadium refuse to do their jobs, they won’t get fired from their official job. They probably won’t even get fired from their off-duty job, but (most likely scenario) be eventually reassigned to some other venue or location. (That depends on who stadium management negotiated with to provide the off-duty officers; if it was the police union, there’ll probably be some foot-dragging and alpha-gorilla chest-beating involved before both sides make an agreement.)

Also, police officers who do off-duty security as a second job make a LOT of money at it. Many officers who’ve done it regularly tend to look at that extra income as part of “regular income”, not supplemental income. They may threaten to, essentially, go on strike, but if it comes down to reporting for work or not getting paid, a lot will grit their teeth, take the money and do that extra work.

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Petty blackmail, actually.

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Let’s face it, way too many cops are morons. Certainly not all, but too many. That is the core police problem.

When Americans say they love their country, what precisely do they love? The federal government? Their local government? Most of their fellow citizens? Members of the military? The geography (mountains, lakes, etc.)? What do you love when you say that you love your country and place your hand over your heart while a song plays? I really think what the members of this police union are saying is that they have every right to shoot unarmed black Americans and if you don’t like it, then you should live somewhere else because “we” are not going anywhere and “we” are not changing anything.

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After the Michael Brown protested died down here in St. Louis a former coworker was helping a St. Louis County Police Officer at the Apple Store where he now works, the Officer told my friend that he made enough in overtime to put an addition on his house. Well you’re welcome dude, from the St. Louis County taxpayers.

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“The 49ers are allowing this to come out from an employee and it’s making for a hostile work environment for us at the stadium,” Saunders told NBC.

Hostile work environment. I love it when Right Wingers adopt the terminology of those they have oppressed. How about hostile living environment the Police have created for millions of citizens? Driving, walking the sidewalk, commuting home late at night while being black can be dangerous.

And they are going to forego the Overtime and the Free Game?. Gotta love those PBAs.

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