The fuckers should fry for this. I donât care if they call it a hate crime because of the racial overtones or the mental health issues of the victim, but it should be one. One of the more disturbingâŚand disturbedâŚthings Iâve ever seen.
I certainly donât condone this behavior, but itâs also bit disturbing on your part to conclude that executing all four of the suspects would constitute âjustice.â
Investigators will have to determine whether the racial remarks were âsincere or just stupid ranting and ravingâ when considering a potential hate crime charge, Duffin said.
What those young people did was terrorize that poor man â and, yes, race was a major factor. WTF? â This one seems pretty obvious. And, Iâll tell you what: If you donât charge these young adults properly AND with Hate Crime enhancements, youâre doing nothing but feeding into the current race wars in this nation. Not that those outside factors should be part of your considerations, but since this case seems pretty clear, youâre going to look pretty anti-white if you refuse to properly charge these dangerous people.
Looks like youâre doing a pretty good job of that on your own.
You donât know me, dude(ette). These young people gagged, tied up, physically tortured, cut the manâs hair with a knife, repeatedly threatened his life â all the while invoking his race and Donald Trump. I didnât do any of that â so just who is contributing to a racial divide?
ETA: And they live-streamed the torture. Sick people.
Seriously. And the last thing we fucking need is Faux News, Breitbart and the rest of the alt-right being handed stories they can exploit to drive their narrative that white people are being horribly persecuted in this country by âPCâ laws, law enforcement and politicians. I havenât been over there yet today, but I am willing to bet this will be blown up into glorious white-fight race-resentment headlines as if it is proof that âhate crimesâ legislation is just code for âwhite genocideâ and using the justice system to take revenge on white people.
PS: OH LOOKâŚTOP FUCKING STORYâŚ
O, lord, I can just imagine what the FOXers are saying: âItâs an epidemic! White people, take cover â especially in out-of-control Chicago. If only this developmentally-disabled man had been packing ⌠those ni****rs wouldnât be taking up jail space.â
Actually, Faux News has become a bit unreliable or perhaps more discrete about which stories they allow to have comments. This one doesnât have them. Thereâs actually been a lot of liberal posters lately and when you have people posting things like âThank you for your contribution to the public record that all Trump supporting white nationalist Teatroll alt-right methibillies are, in fact, racist scumâ in response to the constant deluge of racist postings, I feel like Faux News might be getting the hint through its moderators. Then again, theyâll be posting their âstreet apesâ and âEBT cardsâ comments under whichever article Faux does place a kkkomment board, so maybe Iâm just imagining things.
LOL. Every other blue moon, I check in to see what their site is doing. I noticed a few times the comments were âoff,â so maybe youâre right â are they starting to get the message they so flooded the world with hate and misinformation, thatâs all they get on their message boards: hate and cockamamie stories. LOL.
I do, however, think FOX is looking at diminished ratings and less influence the next four years. I know they are trying to play the field with what theyâve got (Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity) ⌠but thereâs a sharp limit to their appeal. Not that I care one whit about Megyn Kelly, but I am sort of glad to see her heading out the door because it signals even more so FOXâs waning days.
General Flynnâs idiot son tweeted yesterday that it was a â#BLMkidnappingâ and mocked POTUS for not condemning it immediately. So, thereâs the conflation narrative that will stick, further pushing the agenda to criminalize legitimate protestors.
What did I tell you about Trump wanting to use martial law? Hmmmm?
Iâm a strong supporter of BLM, which has absolutely nothing to do with this heinous act or the Chicago police departmentâs response, but what about this incident does not fit the definition of a hate crime? Seems pretty clear-cut to me.
See? Thereâs no such thing as Trump supporters committing widespread assaults on minorities, but by gosh, assaults on Trump supporters are an epidemic!
And donât forgetâŚthis is all BLMâs fault! Thanks Obama!!!
Cmdr. Kevin Duffin said the four people in custody were âyoung adults and they make stupid decisions.â Investigators will have to determine whether the racial remarks were âsincere or just stupid ranting and ravingâ when considering a potential hate crime charge, Duffin said.
SoâŚwhen did we stop taking what people say for how they actually feel?
Same thing with Muslim terrorists. They say, I did it for Allah, and many on the illiberal left like Reza Aslan and Glenn Greenwald will say, âNo. You didnât. You did it because youâre poor, or because of American imperialism.â Iâm not saying those things arenât contributing factors, but if someone says I did it because my religion or religious leaders told me to, why donât we believe them?
The police have a point worth considering. Under unrestrained circumstances, plenty of people, especially high-drive, immature and impulsive youngâuns, who may well have been on drugs that hyped them up even further or at least reduced their inhibitions, are hair-trigger ready to act out aggressively to anyone vulnerable, which this man was for sure. One alone might not have ever done such a thing; but with their peers, egging each other on, and the vague notion of âfameâ on the internet, whatever inhibitions they had were soon gone. Itâs quite likely that the urges came first, a handy target next, then the emotional buildup and the violent actions; and that the justification was an afterthought, chosen in this case based on the obvious racial difference with a political side thrown in gratis. Iâve often suspected this scenario is a substantial factor in the Trump violence picture too.
President-Elect Pettytweet might want to direct his attention to Indiana, whose lax gun regulations allow a flood of weapons into Chicago just across the border.
Thanks for making that point â and it makes some sense. They are at that age where one part of their lives (their teen years) are merging with their beginning adult ones. I understand what youâre saying, though I wish it could/would have been conveyed that way to the news agencies AND the news agencies reported it. Either way, though, the ones who are close to adulthood will likely face harsher sentences should they be found guilty ⌠and rightly so. With adulthood comes the need to actually make adult-like right and wrong choices.
I fully agree. And thinking about my first post I want to state clearly that I hold these young men fully responsible and that I agree with the characterization as a hate crime; explanation is not absolution. I very much doubt that BLM had anything whatever to do with it, just perhaps the chronic anger of the dispossessed. Insofar as adulthood goes, I suspect the hobbits were onto a better idea, that people arenât fully adult till about 30 yo, what with the delayed development of brain executive functions especially impulse control; maybe 25-ish for most humans. But that said, once theyâre big and strong enough, and unmonitored enough, to wreak such mayhem, theyâre young men and not kiddies, and like it or not must deal with the adult world as the price for being treated as an adult,
Yeah, Iâm in agreement â I do not believe BLM had anything to do with what these young adults did. Chronic anger, though totally understood, is the primaryâif not 95%âmotivator coupled with DJTâs ascending to the White House. There are a hundred thousand boatloads of white people just as dismayed and angry â and I find it really sad they couldnât/wouldnât think that possible and them not feel so alone and like always the victim because there are so many of us white people who are supporters of the BLM message ⌠and so much more.