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You cannot convince the people of a country you are āon their sideā if you are doing this. and you must be āon their sideā to win. No āexceptional nationā does this and no āprofessional militaryā condones it. But for fucks sake folksā¦can we lean from our mistakes? I saw this shit being done in Vietnamā¦another lossā¦and we all know it contributed to our failure there. So we do it againā¦fail againā¦?
A bigger story than the abuse photos released today by the Pentagon: the ones that are missing.
Warning: Graphic Imagery
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A 73-year-old Iraqi woman detained and allegedly sexually abused and assaulted by U.S. soldiers. According to the Army report detailing the incident, the soldiers forced her to "crawl around on all-fours as a ālarge man rodeā on her,ā striking her with a stick and calling her an animal.
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An Iraqi teenager bound and standing in the headlights of a truck immediately after his mock execution staged by U.S. soldiers.
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Another shows the body of Muhamad Husain Kadir, an Iraqi farmer, shot dead at point-blank range by an American soldier while handcuffed.
The Pentagon still has not given a name to the Iraqi war. Somehow āOperation Re-elect Bushā doesnāt seem to be popular.
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Until Cheney, Bush & Rumsfeld are brought to testify before the Hague, we will never heal.
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Maybe Iām naive, but one would think that basic training and even AIT (advanced infantry training) would include modules on war crimes. I recall lectures and films telling us that crimes against civilians were punishable by prison or even death.
i, for one, certainly internalized that part of the training.
Ditto for officers and noncoms. Iāve got to believe that men doing these things believe they have implicit permission for the behavior. Were there no officers or noncoms around to stop the abuse? Did not the presence of photographers inhibit this behavior.
As I said, maybe Iām naive. Maybe it canāt be stopped altogether, but maybe we can reduce the incidence of it.
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Some other familiar names mentioned: Gonazales, Yoo, Addington, Bybee
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Oh, great: now everyone in the whole COUNTRY has to sweat it out for the rest of our lives in case some bureaucrat in some government agency in the U.S. intel community retroactively classifies any of these photos.