Discussion for article #233510
More madness from The Best and the Brightest.
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And rethinking, and rethinking, and rethinking some more. Since little thought is what got us entangled in this desert quicksand, a hell of a lot of thought and readjustment of that thought is needed to get out.
Afghanistan may be the least of our problems at this point. The bush’s invasions stirred up a sleeping giant of hatred in the Arab world. Getting out of Afghanistan or going back in makes no difference in Syria or Iraq or to the terrorist opportunists that need a Holy war to survive.
The real WMD, was the go it from the gut instinct of the last Republican President Puppet Fool and his willingness to listen to all the wrong people. Will the Iraqi’s ever forget, how could they when the quagmire is still fresh? Do Afghanistani’s realize that they were used? Probably.
Counterterrorim is a fluid situation and a base in Afghanistan is only the launch pad just as it was for bush the dumber’s original crusade.
Counterterrorism is just as effective if we don’t give them targets, Americans IOW, and keep the fight alive. Which is playing into the terrorists mission.
Brute force vs. heartless evil is a lose/lose. Excluding the war hawks and war profiteers, we are smarter than this.
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Yes, you would think we were “smarter than this” but as terrorists opportunists need a Holy war so do the war profiteers here at home. The U.S. Defense Industry and Arms Sales account for about 1% (2001) of our GDP. Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Boeing are the three top arms-producing and military servicing companies in the world. Eight of the top ten are American companies (2010). So yes, it will take a lot of rethinking.
To me it’s all madness. We invaded and occupied two sovereign nations - and still do today a dozen years later. “Mr. President, why are we in Iraq” was the standard question to the Village Idiot from Helen Thomas as she sat up front during a Bush presser. All the alpha males sitting behind her would snicker. It’s still a valid question today. Time to come home. I experienced this first hand in Vietnam where the Harvard rookies thought they had the answers but they didn’t even know the questions. And they couldn’t let it go. It’s the same today.
BTW that wasn’t your post, it was Lib538 who told me to team up with ISIS. My apologies.
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I’m sure you gave him reason to. Since you play bad Darcy-good Darcy after you get called out, which is pretty damned often. You must enjoy it?
Go back and note that on the thread that you claimed/lied it on and you might look like less of a liar.
And yeah, you basically just expanded on my idea which I personally see no need to get all in depth about because the MIC is fricking huge and this Middle East adventurism promises to keep them in business for many decades to come. Holy Wars last centuries and dumbass bush just had to cowboy it up and go into the lion’s den. Now, we are stuck fighting the enemy that he created and there just isn’t any easy way out.
I’m sure you’ll say that there is so I’ll disagree before you get going.