Discussion: Pennsylvania Guv Orders Removal Of Confederate Flag From Capitol Display

And in another example of the Republican outreach toward minorities …

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“She had no right to do it without going through proper channels, given her position,” said Debra Markle, a historical society board member. “She knows what protocol is, and that was not protocol.”

There’s a protocol for that?

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Okay… Seriously…

In this case it was being displayed in it’s proper context, as a part of the shared history of our nation. It was one of the flags that has flown over the various parts of our nation, as this exhibit was intended to showcase.

Yes it’s used by groups as a symbol of hate, it is also a indelible part of our nations history. Like I said this was the proper context to display the flag, as a relic of our history.

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I believe they meant

“She should have requested to have it removed” etc etc…

Not just taken it and walked off with it… Generally speaking that’s called theft.

OK but I have to disagree. In my opinion, there is no proper context in which to display a flag that represented treason, human trafficking and slavery and she didn’t steal it. She took it to a legislative office. Good for the Gov.

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The insensitivity of the Hanover Area Historical Society to include not one but three Confederate flags is pretty astounding. I don’t care if they previously flew anywhere in the US or not.

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No, it’s not. Theft requires the intent to either appropriate the value of something to oneself or deny another the value of that thing.

What she did is generally called Moving a Thing Without Asking First. Not very nice, but not theft.

The angry and personal reaction to the flag’s removal confirms the organizers intent was not completely historic.

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If someone really wants to symbolize the flag then they should nail it to a cross in the front yard and burn it or hang it from a tree.
This is what the confederate flag actually symbolizes, not southern love.

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For example it flew over Pennsylvania previously as the flag of those responsible for the killing some 3,000+ loyal American soldiers at Gettysburg.

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TPM:

“The Confederate flag is a symbol of racism and hatred and he doesn’t think it should be displayed in a state building,” said Jeff Sheridan, spokesman for the Democratic governor.

In addition to it being a symbol of racism and hatred, it is also a symbol of treason against the United States, and, as a Northerner and an American, I’m personally offended and angered by any state displaying that traitor’s flag.

Republican Rep. Dan Moul of Adams County, who helped bring the exhibit to the Capitol, urged Wolf to reconsider his decision.

“When you take something that doesn’t belong to you, that’s an issue, whether you like it or not,” Moul said. “What’s next? Somebody doesn’t like one of the statues in here and they take it down on their own?”

Representative Moul, with all due respect: Go to hell, you traitor sympathizer.

I think a museum exhibit showing and discussing the history of slavery, racism in the US, the Civil War, and the Civil Rights movement, are all appropriate places to display the traitor flags of the Confederacy - in the same way that it’s appropriate to include a Nazi flag in an exhibit on WWII and the Holocaust.

That said, a state Flag Day display is not the appropriate place to display the Confederate flag. Flag Day, and Flag Week, are celebrations of the Flag of the United States of America.

Now, while I can understand and agree with an argument to include in such a celebration a display of each of the 50 state flags and the flags of the American Revolution, for the life of me, I cannot fathom why anyone would think it’s appropriate or acceptabe to display the racist traitor flags of Confederate treason in any display celebrating the US Flag, for two reasons:

  1. It’s the flag of traitors and treason, and

  2. It was never a US flag, but the flag of US enemies who attempted to break away from the United States for the repeatedly expressed purpose of preserving the heinous institution of slavery.

The Confederate flags have no place in a celebration of the flags of the United States of America, because they are not, and never were, American flags.

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And in Pennsylvania of all places. This idiot Moul should read his state history and find out what happened at a Lutheran seminary in July, 1863- the place is called Gettysburg.

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As to your 2) thing,

The British Flag and British Provincial flags were included in the display sooo… Yeah they were “enemies” (particularly in this context) once too. And to many people the Union Jack also represents oppression, slavery and genocide. And they were also “never flags of our nation”

Second (and before you try it no I am not a confederate flag waving idiot) the flag of the union is a symbol of treason and traitors. It only became the symbol of our country by armed insurrection against the lawful government of the colonies… The difference between the two, the nascent United States was successful and thus became an independent nation, rather than our founding fathers being hung for treason because they failed.

The display was not specific to PA. If I’m. Not wrong, the red flag with the Union Jack in the corner is the Provoncial flag of The Sandwich Isles (re: Hawaii, when it was a British holding)