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I have to admit, her story sounds plausible. Weāll soon see what the evidence really shows. The problem with uncovering real conspiracies is that they all sound like conspiracy theories in the beginning. Also, using a āgrand conspiracyā as your defense is always a hard sell.
Iām willing to believe that the Pennsylvania justice system is capable of behaving in the way she alleges but, letās see if she can prove it. If sheās telling the truth, I guess it will be the greatest case sheāll have ever tried.
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I have no information either way and this will be a very interesting case to follow. It is worth mentioning, however, that Kathleen Kane drew the ire of the Republicans and Conservatives in PA in when she announced in July of 2013 that she would NOT defend the Pennsylvania gay marriage ban under any circumstance, because she believed, correctly, that it was patently unconstitutional. Pennsylvania GOP chair Rob Gleason went ballistic and he and his ilk have, to this day, been gunning for her.
Because, as we all know, the Republicans, Cons and Baggers would NEVER use their ābeliefsā as a point of consideration when it comes to the law.
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I believe the Attorney Generalā¦
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It certainly sounds as if her side of the story has some merit, and there are lots of people involved looking to make her go away for reasons that seem reasonably outside of the laws allegedly broken. This is turning into quite a circus.
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Man, this is almost salacious and silly enough to be a GOP scandal.
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Kane said the email scandal, which surfaced last summer, resulted in six firings, 23 reprimands and two high-profile resignations, including a state Supreme Court judge.
Is there something to her allegations?
My guess, if true, it involves both Dems and Repubs. regarding those emails on state serversā¦so it is plausible that the entire body politick and power structure that allowed those emails to be circulated is more than an embarrassmentā¦its obviously a crime.
Those that may want to see her go away, might be hoping those emails go away with her too. How sheāll expose that without the requisite authority afforded to her by the same power structure, is a conundrum. If she was smart, sheād solicit the Feds to intervene, if there is any truth to her allegations. Seems sheās saying there are obstruction of justice and corruption issues going on with State political appointees and elected officialsā¦and that should deserve oversight and investigation outside the State for resolution if the well in the State has already been poisoned.
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Iām thinking she has nothing to lose or to hide. Sounds to me like sheās done a good job so far and that sheās likely uncovered some very unflattering goings-on ā by many players. My gut tells me sheās in the right, here.
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Yea like a bunch of good old white boy judges would send around porn and racial jokes and get pissed off when some woman crashed their partyā¦those guys are fine, upstanding, godly men sacrificing high paying lawyer jobs to serve the publicā¦
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Where are they going to find a judge to try her?
Pennsylvania is not immune from some serious RICO charges against obstruction of justice, and my guess is that Pennsylvania is one of those that has State RICO laws to go after the offenders, which sheās essentially alleging. If she canāt or isnāt allowed to prosecute those charges because of further interference by those criminally or politically motivated, as sheās alleging, asking a Federal Judge to oversee the case would be her best bet.
Btw, I play armchair lawyer in my free timeā¦so if Iām wrongā¦sue me. Hah.
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I like her legal defense: she broke no law. I also like her political and social defense: release the emails with names and dates intact. Iād go so far as to say that everyone who forwarded a piggy email deserves the full measure of public shaming that would result and that their Embarrassment should be punishment enough. Unless they literally trafficked in child porn. Then let the FBI take over.
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Weāll, I assume itās a mixed-marriage scandal as I doubt the entire state justice system is Dem.
Appros, the county D.A. prosecuting the case against Kane is a Republican elected to D.A. in a county that essentially contains a Philly suburb who is also a woman and who currently disclaims all ambition for higher office except a judge job that comes up for election in 2016. That means:
a) the prosecuting D.A. may well be gone from office due to that election for that other job BEFORE the prosecution against Kane is over, indeed before the trial even opens; and
b) by the sheerest of coincidences apparently, Republican U.S. Senator Pat Toomey now will go for re-election next November against a Democratic opponent OTHER THAN the one with the highest current name recognition and net favorables, being Kathleen Kane.
Of course, such coincidences never have any underlying meaning in our American democratic system ā¦ other than for the hundreds to thousands of cases where it tuned out they did, right from the beginning.
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Believe It or Not, there are lots and lots of Republican appointed and elected judges in Pennsylvania.
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The judiciary in Pennsylvania is a mess. Judges there have been colluding with private prison companies to send people to jail in exchange for kickbacks. I think this may be some sort of vendetta against the attorney general. It does not smell right.
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The whole thing has smelled like a witch hunt from the beginning. I am glad Kane is standing up for herself. Interesting, thoughāit is clear that nobody knows how to handle emails. Everywhere you look there is an email scandal. Weāve had letters since the days of the Babylonians, and emails for about 20 years, so this is not surprising. The racist and sexist emails that were going around took down a good pro-choice justice, Iām afraid, but he should have shown better judgment.
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She has seven years in prison to lose. Not exactly peanuts.
Guilty or innocent, this is one ballsy lady.
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Google is your friend.
Justice Seamus McCaffery resigns from Pa. Supreme Court in wake of state email investigation
So yes, there is an investigation ongoing into Porngate in Pennsylvania.
Perhaps some intrepid reporter can go watch All the Presidents Men and become inspired to quit taking dictation from āsourcesā and do some actual Investigating?
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Show me the emails.