Discussion: Pence Won't Rule Out Bringing Back Waterboarding

Let’s bring back the iron maiden! And pincers. Tearing flesh with red hot pincers. And the thing where they tighten wet rope until bones pop and organs ooze. Yay! America is great!

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“And we’re going to have a president again who will never say what we’ll never do.”

Are you going to do the illegal stuff?
‘Well now, we can’t say what we’re going to do or not. We want to maintain unpredictability, so we’re going to leave the illegal stuff on the table.’

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I can’t wait until they start talking about nuclear policy.
I bet that the major reporters realize that even bringing up the topic could lead to an international incident—possibly before Trump even assumes office.

Keep the powder dry, the silos open, and keep the gas chambers set on low.

The logical followup to this is ask if that means Trump won’t rule out chopping off fingers during interrogations, or perhaps sexual assualt? Burning?

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I won’t rule out rioting in the streets.
You are an embarrassment to American principles

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Waterboard Pence for 30 seconds or a minute. Then ask him if it’s torture.

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“And we’re going to have a president again who will never say what we’ll never do.”

In other words, we will soon have a President who will not rule out violating the Constitution and International Law, and is happy to admit it to the world.
To this we’ve come.

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in that famous speech in Ohio

Trump gave a famous speech? In Ohio? Are Trump’s stream of consciousness Joan Rivers type musings now considered “famous speeches?” Will future generations of junior high school debaters recite Trump’s Famous Speech. In Ohio. That one, ya know. Yeah.

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I used to acquaint our troops to what they could expect if “detained” during a conflict. Waterboarding was always a surprise to the students, and we deliberately kept it low key. The most self-confident seemed the first to fall, literally begging for relief after a minute or so. All this without the expected precursors of stress positions and food deprivation.

Torture is torture. There is nothing more inefficient in order to solicit information from a prisoner. You will hear a lot of what the prisoner thinks you want to hear, not a lot else.

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Yes waterboarding is bad, very bad, but I what I worry about is first you have to catch a Radical Islamist Terrorist, or you have to catch who you think is a RIT. We’ve done the snatching off the streets and flying them to block ops sites, and isn’t this the stuff that make W and Darth Vader afraid to leave US soil?

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And the healthcareless rubes will cheer!

famous speech

Speech?!?!? Where? Disconnected rambles, yes, but “speech”, no.
BTW, when’s big guy having his 1st press conference?

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Can we turn him over to The Hague? Like right now, I mean?

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I think Donald and Mike are chomping at the bit to waterboard the entire Hamilton cast immediately after the inauguration.

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LORD, I get tired of these chickenhawks telling us ‘what torture is’. Cowardly bullies playing at war with other people’s lives.

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“And we’re going to have a president again who will never say what we’ll never do.”

Cannibalism, rape, child molestation, genocide, ethnic cleansing… look we just aren’t taking anything off the table.

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Pence is hoping that he will be able to use waterboarding against gays, transgender people, marriage equality advocates, pro-choice advocates, etc. If Pence had his way, the “culture wars” would take on a new and darker tone.

More appropriately it was an infamous speech.

So illegal torture will make a comeback under the Trump Kakistocracy? Thus surely is “American exceptionalism” in action, no?