Discussion: Pelosi Slams Border Wall, Calls It Trump's 'Manhood Issue'

She’s absolutely right in describing this as a Trump “manhood” issue. Clearly, his need to erect that wall reflects problems, uh, elsewhere.

House and Senate Republicans now want to give him $23 billion or so. Wouldn’t it be cheaper to buy him some little blue pills or magic mushrooms for his, uh, weirdly-shapen, uh, fungus?

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OK, so if a border wall is the worst way, why is that, and what is she proposing instead?

Calling the wall a manhood issue for Trump seems great for Pelosi’s base, but it just gives Trump more ammunition for his own base. You can’t beat Trump at the insult game because he and his minions will magnify and reflect it right back at you.

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Oh, if only Donald J. Trump had only a single manhood issue.

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Manhood issue from a woman politician, I love it, it predicts Old Orange political geyser about to go off again.

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I am massively uninterested in “you can’t speak the truth because Trump will just twist it anyway”.

He’ll twist anything. Might as well make it be the truth.

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That’s a bizarre argument. The Dems have had a plan for years: comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship plus modern border security. The GOP won’t sign on to it because they’re racists and want to keep alive the white nationalist dream of mass deportation of all brown folks, citizens, legal immigrants and undocumented folks alike.

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Gotta give it to the gals…they have no more shts to give.

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This comes off as “if they go low, we go low”.

I have no issue with aggressively pushing back against trump and the GOP… just don’t think this is the way to do it.

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It’s also predicated on the idea that we’re on some sort of national precipice, that we have to do something because everything is about to come crashing down.

Which is nonsense.

Circa 2016, our immigration policy had a lot of problems, and a lot of our non-citizen residents faced dangers and challenges which were unfair and wrong, but every single thing that Republicans have proposed in the last N number of years (I’m not sure what N is, but it’s not small) is worse than nothing.

The status quo was a rusted-out K-car, but covering the car in thermite and then crawling to work on broken glass isn’t necessarily a superior option.

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Hell, you need not even speak it. If you don’t, he’ll just make it up anyway. Just look at his comment about how even his enemies agree that Sessions shouldn’t have recused himself.

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WOW! You go, Girl! :laughing:

Details from Stormy at 11:00.

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Exactly! “Don’t say anything mean because PP will be mean back” is not a game we can afford to play.

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It’s also predicated on the idea that we’re on some sort of national precipice, that we have to do something because everything is about to come crashing down.

That’s the way it’s sold and in reality it is a crisis situation - for the immigrants. Been going on for at least three decades. I doubt it will ever be resolved because in it’s present state it provides more than anything else, cheap labor. Corporate America has it both ways, cheap labor, cheap money with the Republican Party doing their bidding. Democrats are complicit also as they chase corporate money, but are altruistic in their defense of immigrants. And they’d love to have their votes one day. And then there’s the Catholic church looking to fill the pews with immigrant families in the church’s diminishing congregations across the country.

Caught up in all this are the immigrants. Heard a story on the radio about a successful labor activist group that won a fight against a corporation in Houston where immigrants were given two fifteen minute water breaks. These immigrants were roofers, laying out tar on buildings’ roofs - in the summer. In Texas.

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It’s not going to help even if he gets to build the wall to his dream weaver mind.

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Oh how I love Nancy.

Hit him in the balls!

Well done!

Anyone still not understand why those white male Republicans hate Nancy?

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“It happens to be like a manhood issue for the president, building a wall, and I’m not interested in that,” she said…

I was unaware that Chiselin’ Trump wants to build this kind of a wall:

Well, she just did!

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Yeah, such winning:

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT!!! “Promises-made, Promises-kept”-donald promised that Mexico would pay for the wall…WHAT?? he now wants MY tax-payer money?, and YOURS, and the nearly 3-million voters who didn’t vote for him along with a number of voters that matched his.

Just think of the things that the USA could do with that $23BB that would be positive, instead of wasted on a stupid, environmentally damaging, donald-ego-boosting wall–> such as: …rural high speed internet with fiber optics, high-speed rail, increase teacher salaries, other infra-structure projects. C’mon Republican voters – get that con-man outta there. (please)

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Don’t you just have to laugh at how donald & son need to get special H1 visas for vineyard workers, and Mar-a-lago workers, and Melania is an immigrant and her parents are chain migrators?

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