Discussion: Pelosi: Republicans Are 'Afraid' Of CBO Score On Obamacare Repeal Bill

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Republicans are not afraid of the CBO score. While I think it should be a point of criticism, it will be easily dismissed by the rubes. I think the better focus would be the 5:1 premium hike over 65’ers are going to get hit with right off the bat. Make them explain that and how it’s going to end up giving lower cost care to everyone.

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Republicans Are ‘Afraid’ Of CBO Score On Obamacare Repeal Bill
– Rep. Nancy Pelosi

An observation obvious to even the most casual observer.

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Majority Whip Scalise is allowing his staffers to leak stories of members losing confidence in the bill. In other words, he’s trying to get it through Ryan’s thick skull that this horse is dead and smelling worse by the hour.

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They’ll dismiss it as whining from a “special interest” group.

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yeah, but the people that interest group represents are also the folks who show up for stuff and the republican base to boot. They get enough hate mail from their own districts and even the most safely ensconced gerrymandered one of them will start thinking twice. Plus, you don’t even have to say the AARP says. Just lead with, this bill raises the rates on all seniors from 3:1 to 5:1. How is that better?

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Also, I’m beginning to wonder whether or not they care if this bill even makes it all the way to Bannon’s desk. I believe that they’ll be perfectly happy if it dies in the Senate, and that this may just be a ploy aimed at the mid-terms. This way the will able to say that they did something. “Oh we tried. We passed the world’s greatest healthcare bill, but those 25 democratic senators up for re-election obstructed reform.” In the meantime they can just sit back and let the ACA fail. And they’ll make damn sure it does, because they hold all those cards too.

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Trump lacks the empathy needed to be honestly charming. It’s a game. It’s all a lie.

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My suggestion: given that the GOP plan would take affordable health insurance away from millions and cause thousands of premature deaths every year, just so the wealthy get a big tax break, you could respond with something that has more emotional impact than a comparison of two ratios.

The older you are, the crueler this plan is. You will face crushing rate increases, and the tax credits won’t begin to keep up with what you will owe the insurance company.

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Yo, Nancy…Sherlock called…

I agree. I just saying that I think it’s best to focus on the bill itself. Force them to explain why is it better that no one will be eligible for Medicaid in 2020? How does that lower costs? How does that make insurance more affordable? They can’t just say, well the CBO is bullshit. Your bill explicitly states that costs will go up when you and the president have said the goal is to lower costs. Why?

The GOP loves to believe that if you’re not wealthy enough to afford a Cadillac plan, you deserve to die when you get sick. To them, it’s one of the few Darwinian concepts they accept; people who get sick probably did something wrong and the lord is punishing them. Congress lets us pay for its health care, so as long as the worthless members of the House and Senate know their elite asses are covered, to hell with the unwashed masses. Yes, the “Masses’ Asses” don’t count.

5:1 premium hike over 65’ers

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Republicans are scared of:

CBO
Constituents
Thr Truth
Facts
Science
Women(gotta control every aspect of their lives)
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We who’ve gladly paid Medicare tax our whole working lives, to keep our parents and grandparents as healthy as possible, are going to be left holding the bag when it’s our turn. It will be on our children to take us in or let us die.

This is what Republicans want.

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Do you think the Democrats cannot do both things at once? I think for Speaker Pelosi to point out the hypocrisy of the Republicans for demanding CBO scores when the PPACA was being created over more than a years time but now pre-emptively dismissing what they know will be damning evidence from the CBO both in terms of people who will lose insurance and the addition of Billions to the deficit is a worthy effort. Throw everything you’ve got at em Madame Speaker.

That’s exactly what they are doing by dismissing the AARP and it’s tens of millions of members. Those people pay attention and will vote. Go GOP GO!

this this and more this.
Stop talking about math - start talking about people…
Most of us do not remember numbers or percentages or ratios…
We all remember personal stories (IMO, this is why Obamacare wasnt as successful politically as it should have been - we heard stories about the people who lost there doctors, but we heard squat about the real people whose lives were saved)…

talk about John over here who has heart issues and will not be able to afford insurance without the subsidies that Obamacare provides.
Talk about Laura…and how she never had insurance before and she got cancer and was saved because of Obamacare
Talk about the people who can now see doctors because of the Medicaid expansion and what that has meant to their families…
Talk about the stability that health care guarantees a family unit…

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from an earlier TPM article and AARP letter on the topic

The AARP warned that age rating, paired with a reduction in subsidies made available to offset the cost of health care, could cause costs to spike drastically for Americans aged 50-64.

“When we examined the impact of both the tax credit changes and 5:1 age rating, our estimates find that, taken together, premiums for older adults could increase by as much as $3,600 for a 55-year old earning $25,000 a year, $7,000 for a 64-year old earning $25,000 a year and up to $8,400 for a 64-year old earning $15,000 a year,” she wrote.

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Looks like I mis-stated the age range

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