IMPEACH the motherfucker
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Just remember how the Democrats after Obama got elected didnât want to pursue investigations into the false run-up to the Iraq war in order to âhealâ and âbring us togetherâ and look what that got us⌠John Bolton back in the WH trying to start a war with Iran, the WH still spinning intel and the GOP still never working with Dems.
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Sheâs just not into it. Iâm amazed people havenât figured that out yet.
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Jesus wept, Nancy. Why donât you just pack up and go home. Our children will likely pay the bill for your timidity.
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There are at least three sets of hiders.
(1) The GOP Senate which is about 99% of the problem
(2) Dem House members hesitant to come forward because of their idea of political considerations
(3) People in the General Public for whom âpoliticsâ takes a back seat to a number of things
OT I liked how Nance slipped in the GOP Senate in the interview
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Then youâre a naive fool.
Clearly, the guys whoâve never held any elective office, hang out on WiFi, and rage post to TPM know way more than a woman who clawed her way up the greasy pole â through decades of sexist opposition that fatally underestimated her unrivaled political skills â to lead Dems in a historic midtem swing during the last election.
Nope, sheâs just a piker compared to a few folks here with so much more political knowledge and experience.
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The idea that she âledâ the Dems in the 2018 midterms is a joke. Many of those same Dems refused to vote for her as speaker. And home many of those Dems welcomed her to campaign for them?
That she managed to climb to the top of the Dem caucus is reflection of how of the low quality of her opposition on the House. Outmaneuvering Steny Hoyer is hardly the biggest pelt one can nail to the wall. Sheâs plenty ambitious - for herself. Her ambition for the country is for the country to continue having Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House.
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Still attempting to defend the indefensible with nothing more than hyperbole I see.
Youâve let Pelosi get into your head. Weâve never had a situation where there was a public approval threshold BEFORE STARTING AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. This is a Pelosi gambit. Itâs a political decision and itâs a stupid one.
The impeachments of Clinton and Nixon were much less popular than the impeachment of Trump is today. That unpopularity didnât stop the impeaching party from starting the inquiry and reaping the benefits.
And all yâall still wonât deal with the costs of not impeaching. You just saw yesterday what Trump is going to do while you wait for that âballot boxâ option. Stop overthinking this and stop buying Pelosiâs rhetoric. Question it. Challenge it. Sheâs choosing not to exercise power which the House uniquely has while Trump burns the country and the Republic to the ground. You should put the burden on those leaders to justify their positions rather than accept patently absurd explanations like âimpeaching is what he wantsâ.
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Indeed. Something people may have forgotten is just how well the âkeep the powder dryâ strategy worked 15 years ago. Bush lied to start a war, torture happened on his watch, and Democrats did nothing. We were assured he could not possibly win re-election, and then he did.
âBut not any one issue is going to trigger, âOh, now weâll go do thisâ because itâs about investigating, itâs about litigating, itâs about getting the truth to hold everyone accountable, and no one is above the law,â she continued.
So she talks about enforcing the law. But she isnât actually willing to do anything.
Sheâs going to slow-walk this until itâs far too late. Weâre already two months past the release of the Mueller report, and the House isnât an iota closer to impeachment proceedings.
Itâs not like sheâs been dishonest here. Sheâs been very clear. She doesnât want to impeach. She wonât let anybody else start impeachment inquiries. There isnât a âcautious, orderlyâ plan here. The plan is to do nothing and hope they win the election next year.
Because, in their minds, what would be really bad is to be exposed as powerless. As long as they can talk about having power, their weakness wonât have been exposed.
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The optics on this are horrible. Increasingly it looks like Donald could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not only would not loose a single supporter, Pelosi wouldnât impeach him.
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Just remember when Obama wouldnât say the magic words âRadical Islamic Terrorismâ and how that âproved he was soft on terrorismâ, as though Obama uttering the magic words would have changed anything in the real world. The same kind of word fixation myopia is happening here.
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Youâre killing me, Nancy.
The Pelosi family is no stranger to the Trump family. She isnât going to rock the .01% boat. Not today, not ever. How would that go over at the next black tie event? What would Paul Pelosi say to Ivanka? AWKWARD.
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When people ask them why they donât stop Trump from running amok, congress critters from both sides of the aisle will say . . .
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you should look up PUNT. Pelosi is working every single day. appears to have a plan and is enacting it call a spade a spade you dont agree as is your right. instead of denigrating her fearless smart intelligent approach lets hear your ideas for solving this Trump disaster and a president clearly breaking the law!!!
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Trying to figure out Pelosiâs game plan here, as I assume she is a strategic thinker and not simply reacting to events⌠One possibility that occurs to me is that she wants to stretch the âdiscoveryâ phase out long enough to reveal all GOP involvement, not just the guilt of those in the direct Trump orbit. Given whatâs known already about Mitch, Ryan, Nunes, the NRA, etc., she may be hoping to build awareness in the voting public generally that itâs the entire party thatâs dirty, not just Trump. If successful, this would put the GOP in the wilderness for at least a decade, if not end the party as we know it today. crosses fingers
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Adopting a sarcastic tone doesnât really constitute much of an argument.
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The game is simple. Sheâs against impeachment and sheâs gonna slow walk this thing into 2020 when she tells Dems that impeachment is moot, turn your energy to giving donations, time and vote. Thatâs what she did in 2018. The thing is, when youâre actually in power people expect you to do some things.
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Because a passion for prevailing winds is the hallmark of true leadership. Right?
h/t to Gore Vidal
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Yeah, maybe, but it doesnât seem like thatâs the game, as she keeps pointing out the egregious things that Trumpâs people as well as other GOPers are doing. It would be one thing to hold hearings on and impeach Trump only to have McConnell ignore the articles, but quite another to have hearings on the wide array of bad behavior in the Greedy Oligarch Party including Trumpâs and have it appear day after day, week after week until the election, culminating in a broad array of impeachments and FBI referrals.
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