Discussion: Paul Ryan Satisfies The Freedom Caucus For Now

system1 · December 16, 2015, 8:39pm

Discussion for article #243864

clunkertruck · December 17, 2015, 11:41am

               Satisfies The Freedom Caucus

They just want to scatter like the cockroaches they are —

tiowally · December 17, 2015, 12:26pm

He didn’t placate anyone. The bastards just want to go home for the holidays. They want that very important time-off from the jobs they don’t do.

imkmu3 · December 17, 2015, 1:36pm

Judging by is photos, he grows and loses a beard and than grows it again faster than anyone I’ve ever known.

dabunny42 · December 17, 2015, 1:36pm

Type in paragraph 2: “smoothing the path for them to snot stand in the way of a deal”…

Ryan may be a snot, but I don’t think that’s what was intended.

jack_russell · December 17, 2015, 2:08pm

Well there is plenty of snot to go around in the modern GOP. Sometimes typos reveal the deep structure of reality.

ajm · December 17, 2015, 2:17pm

“what you take away is that while Paul Ryan has bought some time he hasn’t really resolved the deeper structural issues.” – David Kurtz

AKA persuading the Freedom Caucus that they in fact are in the minority and do not get to rule the country.

boisdevache · December 17, 2015, 2:39pm

That last quote sums up the GOP. As long as someone makes it sound good, we’re in.

The comment about cleaning the barn makes me wonder how long it will be until they’re calling Li’l Pauly Hercules for cleaning King Boehner’s stables.

daveyjones64 · December 17, 2015, 2:55pm

That’s part of it. Plus he revealed it to them in the middle of the debate, when they all wanted to be watching the debate. Which also has the benefit of burying discussion of it in the post debate noise.

Tactically, you have to hand it to Ryan. But he just avoided the arguments for the time being, he didn’t win over anyone. He is still going to face a reckoning.

thomasmatthew · December 17, 2015, 3:39pm

So where are Sanford and Ryan going on their honeymoon, Argentina?

beattycat · December 17, 2015, 3:58pm

“He passed the test in terms of process and openness. He passed with flying colors” says Rep. Mark Meadows, a Republican member of the Freedom Caucus who is still undecided on how he will vote for the omnibus. "Don’t judge the process on the product. The product may end up with a ‘no’ vote, but the process certainly gets a ‘yes’ vote."

I’ll give Speaker Ryan credit for what everyone seems to be stating–being far more inclusive with the actual negotiations–but I tend to believe that in a year’s time these folks will be singing a different tune and actually judging the process by the products.

beattycat · December 17, 2015, 4:00pm

I hear the Smokey Mountains are nice this time of year … might even get a snow (job).

thorzdad · December 17, 2015, 4:59pm

…House GOP Conservatives…

Are there members of the House GOP who aren’t conservative? TPM and others have been doing this for a good while now, and it’s very misleading, if not outright disingenuous. It implies Ryan and his supporters aren’t conservative, and that’s as far from reality as can be.

I suggest the TPM editors change this and, when you’re referring to groups like the Freedom Caucus, you refer to them as “ultra-conservative”, “far-right”, etc., and not merely “conservative.”

lestatdelc · December 17, 2015, 5:20pm

In the end, moderates…

LOL. So Bigfoot, Nessie, and Leprechauns are now voting members in the House?

Moderate Republicans in the House are have entered into the realm of myth. There are no “moderates” left in the GOP these days. There are conservatives and reactionaries.

randyabraham · December 17, 2015, 6:12pm

They only have themselves to blame.

They had all year to hammer out a budget and then the individual appropriations bills, but once again left it to the last-minute, when they’d hoped to get through everything on their ideological policy wish-lists – loosening campaign contribution limits, weakening Dodd-Frank, blocking funding for Planned Parenthood etc. – under the crisis, deadline conditions of a must-pass legislation.

Hopefully, not again.

randyabraham · December 17, 2015, 6:14pm

“Conservative” implies a coherent ideological viewpoint.

See Lestatdelc – these people are reactionaries, bomb throwers, obstructionists.

dnl · December 17, 2015, 6:16pm

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lockheedkeynesian · December 17, 2015, 6:38pm

The Freedom Caucus’ Wish List:

An all Evangelical US, mostly white in race and living mostly in the South
Everyone else out. Just get out.
A kick-ass military that fights and fights and never worries about the consequences
A pope that will stay out of politics and climate science
FOX News only.
Hillary behind bars for life
Obama back in Kenya
Cheney back in the loop everywhere- Pentagon, State, WH, FOX, NSA
Home school tax credits
Medicare demolished
Departments of Energy, Education, the IRS, and HUD gone
One mandatory religion and language
All mention of climate change scrubbed from the record
-Coal-fired electric plants and a bounty for every solar panel removed
-Pork & Beef subsidies for farmers and consumers
-Lots and lots of guns and ammo

beattycat · December 17, 2015, 6:44pm

Sounds exactly like what the Republicans serve up this time every year.

beattycat · December 17, 2015, 6:59pm

Addendum:

-Constitutional Amendment banning all marriages except Old Testament Biblical. No court house ones either! Church-sanctioned only!
-Constitutional Amendment banning male-on-male sex. (No mention of hoo-ha to hoo-ha kind … because … well, porn).
-Abstinence Only!!!
-The Great Wall(ing off) of Mexico.
-Ban all unions.
-Environmental Protection Agency gone.
-Medicaid demolished.
-Social Security demolished
-Mandatory NRA Membership and Gun Ownership
-New: Department of Military Industry