Discussion: Paul Ryan Promises A Replacement For Obamacare Is Coming This Year

until you put a workable plan on the table, shut the fuck up.

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Ryan wouldn’t commit to what his plan would fully do.

I’ll commit on Ryan’s behalf:

It will cut taxes.
It will place fewer requirements on insurance companies and employers.
It will not do anything to make healthcare more affordable or accessible to average citizens.

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The master of magic number budgets promises his next great policy illusion.

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Policy is all details. If the consumer protections are different or gone, you cannot compare the GOP plans with the ACA plans. We need the details, Paul.

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Total BS. You had 8 years under Bush II and did nothing. You voted to repeal 45 times under Obama’s 8 years. That is 16 years and you still have no plan. You cannot govern. You are incompetent.

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I hope this doesn’t mean that Ryan expects to repeal without a replacement. It is absurd to transition to something that is unknown. How does one shape the transition if you don’t know what the end point is?

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I notice that Kaiser has been polling and doing focus groups about what people want. Today’s story about what Trump voters want was interesting. They want the insurance to be more like Medicaid, less complex, and with fewer surprises and deductibles, etc. I think they want single payer. I think Kaiser can make the case for this right now in ways that liberal groups can’t because Trump voters are so oppositional to anything a liberal says, but I think we want the same thing. http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/opinion/the-health-care-plan-trump-voters-really-want.html

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Eric Cantor, 2009: We’re weeks away from a Republican alternative to Obamacare.

More weeks have passed than there are Republican members of Congress.

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Has Ryan ever met a deadline?

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Yea but it was pretty awkward and didn’t go well. Luckily he had something planned for after.

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Considering he tried to chop an hour off his marathon time and thought no one would notice, nope.

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Hahaha. Good one.

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It will remove coverage for birth control. It will keep the coverage for Viagra.

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But wait–Didn’t some Trump spokesman just say that it would not happen until 2019?

The simplest thing to do in politics is to get the people in your party talking in public on some issue to say the same things. These knuckleheads can’t even do this.

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Will this cynical attempt to boost the morale of embattled Republicans in Congress succeed?

Stay tuned!

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I get a feeling about this…
The ACA or Obamacare is wobbling its way to being a successful program that helps millions or American’s. But it came from Democrats and was signed into law by a Black Democrat. The GOP initially tried to kill the legislation with lies but it managed to get by that. No death panels. No health care rationing. No 20,000 IRS agents. But it is helping and by that poses a threat to the GOP dominance of America they’ve planned for so long.

So repeal and replace ( the replacement being nothing but a reenactment of the original ACA ) and take credit. Repeal it after most of the bugs have been worked out and it’s doing what it was planned to do. Let it sort itself out then dump it and put it right back with your name on it and take credit for launching a “successful program”. In a well informed country you couldn’t do that but we don’t live in a well informed country.

I can’t see the politics in dumping 30 million people on the street. But I can see the GOP ripping off the concept and taking credit for “saving healthcare” after healthcare has saved itself. Kind of like puke Zuckerberg did when he saved My Space with Facebook.

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 "Our legislating on Obamacare, our repealing and
 replacing and transitioning, the legislating, will
 occur this year," Ryan said. "What date all of this
  gets phased in something we do not now know."

It will coincide with that terrible " stain " Paul …

That one you’ll never be able to wash out of your career —

Ryan wants this done quickly because he doesn’t want a repeat of 2005 when the plan to privatize social security failed after public opinion turned against them when it got delayed for months. Cracks are starting to form in the Senate and we just need 3 turnovers to stop it.

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