Discussion: Passenger Uses 'Knee Defender' Gadget To Prevent Reclining Seats, Causes Fight

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How about passengers that cause flight diversions get put on a no fly list?

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Conclusion: they’re both a-holes.

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It is rude to recline your seat, but I usually don’t say anything. I once got in an argument with someone over their seat reclining too. The seat in front of me was clearly broken, because there is no reason it would be able to recline that far back - his head was in my lap. It actually sounds like this might be similar. The flight attendant in my case though actually agreed that it was too far back. If an airplane seat can recline more than a few inches, then that’s too much.

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Suddenly the no-fly list seems like a good idea.

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The guy has a point about the airlines selling the same space twice, but that he declines to recline doesn’t grant him the authority to enforce his wishes on other passengers. If the airline says his device is forbidden, and that passengers can recline their chairs, then he is clearly in the wrong.

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Will somebody please invent a Jerk Defender?

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Why is it rude to recline your seat? The seats recline. I do it 100% of the time, and I fully expect whomever is sitting in front of me to do the same. I am neither surprised nor annoyed when they do so.

I can’t see any reason to be upset when someone uses something as it was intended to be used.

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Whenever I want to visit Chicago, I pick up a cheap cross-country ticket and then, after a few hours, I whip out my Knee Defender or my Sprite for a quick put down.

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Actually, I was thinking that they should be relegated to flying in coach for the remainder of their lives, you, with us common folk.

In other words, he’s embarrassed someone caught him in the act this time, leading to him exposing his ass quite publicly.

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Reclining has been made rude by the airlines that pack more seats into planes without updating the seat design.

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Let’s put some of the blame of this type of situation on the airlines. They are putting their customers in smaller and smaller space in the cheap seats and at some point, people are going to react. The angle you sit at when the seat is upright is very uncomfortable.

I recently had 1/2 of a seat on a long flight because the seats were so small and I was seated next to 2 very obese passengers. I have back problems and had to make myself smaller during the whole flight. Why should I have to pay full price for 1/2 a seat?

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It’s not rude to recline your seat. Try accepting what is instead of fighting against it.

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I understand the chaos they cause but I’m also on the side of their users. There are only two ways to remedy this - you either make seats that don’t recline as far as they do now, which is pretty fucking annoying unless you, two, decrease the number of seat rows in coach/economy. As anyone over the age of 40 knows, it wasn’t always this way, particularly for overseas flights. As airlines will do neither, I’m all in favor of re-regulating the airlines as it’s otherwise been pretty much a disaster as all but the best foreign carriers race to the bottom.

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Airline travel is the Seventh Circle of Hell. Mr. Douchebag Frequent Traveler is taking something out on another passenger that he should be taking up with the airlines. If people are not supposed to recline their seats, then the seats wouldn’t have that feature built in. Is it claustrophobically annoying when someone in front of you reclines their seat? Of course it is, but it is also a built in function of the seat. But people like Beach are only concerned with what they want. I wonder how many people were inconvenienced or missed connecting flights because of the flight having to be diverted to Chicago. He pretty much owns that. I’m with the rest of you. Put this guy on the No Flight list for a while.

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Here’s the solution:

  1. Don’t want a recliner in front of you? Call the flight attendant.
  2. They tell the passenger in front of you that you’d prefer that they not recline. The flight attendant asks the passenger if this is OK with them.
  3. If they disagree, they are free to recline with impunity for the remainder of the flight.
  4. If they agree, the rear passenger gives the flight attendant a credit card, and the airline charges them $50.
  5. The airline keeps $10 as a nuisance fee, and gives $40 to the passenger in front as compensation for their discomfort for the remainder of the flight.
  6. The flight attendant installs a knee defender on the front passenger’s seat.

There you have it. As compensation for this brilliant solution, I request reclining seats for life.

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It is rude because seats are both too close together and they are made to recline too far, particularly on smaller jets used on relatively short domestic flights.

This guy is an ass, but it is the greedy airlines that are to blame.

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If that man puts that device on a seat I paid for, he better have good health insurance, because he is going to need a doctor to remove it from his behind.

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