On another panel, trump team members heckled CNN reps and others. Classy group.
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Harvardâs current motto is Veritas not âBe Nice.â
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Sure Trump connected by being the most lying candidate ever. Sure he had an economic message, based on lies.
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I thought surely somebody wouldâve dropped that nugget. She got more votes than Pepe and more votes in history than any president other than Obama. Her message did resonate, it just didnât get her over the top in three states she needed.
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Both have points, but Conway is a liar if she claims Trump didnât pedal racism. Clinton on the other hand could have advanced a non-racist message aimed at working class people of all stripes. Bernie had that message. Clinton didnât understand why Bernieâs message was so powerful.
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Dear Kelly Anne, fuck you. Trump has less in common with poor white voters than my cat.
So stop the fucking nonsense. Oh, and we arenât interested in âbeing nice.â
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Exactly - donât avoid them - confront them every chance you get. Whether it is at a panel discussion at Harvard or watching Hamilton on Broadway. Once they understand that few on the left are willing to meekly follow the old mores of graciously accepting a loss because T***pâs campaign destroyed whatever mores we had as a self-governing nation. Reap what you sow.
A former Romney ally wrote an op/ed in the Boston Globe with a message of âBe a good sport and get over itâ - I was reassured reading the comments that tore him a new one.
They have the White House, but they need to know that when they bring their shit outside of the T***p/Breitbart bubble, they will be called on it. And if that is uncomfortable or it hurts their fee-fees, too bad - get used to it.
If they want to lead the whole country they need to act like it. Not take victory tours and rub salt in our wounds.
Healing is possible, but it takes time, mutual effort and honesty, something in short supply around T***p.
That said, it is possible - Sen. Warren is publicly endorsing Scott Brownâs nomination for VA (heâd be way better than Caribou Barbie). After a particularly nasty campaign that Brown ran (which in hindsight was nowhere near as bad as Tp) Warren was relentless on Brown and helped defeat him when he ran for Senate in NH. Perhaps Warren figured they were about even now so they have tempered their criticism of each other lately, so that is an example of grown-ups reaching an understanding. However, Tp and KAC have a long, long, way to go to work off the negativity they brought forth and since they havenât started yet, I doubt they have any intention to do so.
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I ventured over to the fever swaps the other day where commenters were high-fiving about trumpâs âdrain the swampâ cabinet picks, in particular, the Mnuchin who was personally profiting ( and helped cause)_ from the 2008 meltdown. Areal victory for the little guy! Woo hoo! They j live by and slogans and have no freakinâ clue about anything beyond that, and maybe donât even really understand the slogan. Tribalism uber alles.
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In a political analysis, you have 2 choices. You can try to understand why you lost. Or you can call the other guy a racist or a sexist or a bigot or a misogynist or a xenophobe.
Democratic arguments today always include Choice 2.
Itâs lazy and itâs wrong and it will never answer the question âHow can we prevent this from happening again?â
But Democrats just want to throw poo around.
OF COURSE, they sucked up to the lowest common denominator. Are you KIDDING me? Did they LOOK (and listen) to their surrogates? The thing that is driving the animosity is Kellyanne and her flippant âget out of hereâ when a Democrat says a damn word. She will not acknowledge that bottom feeders in her party nor the fact that the popular vote count is up over 2 million for Hillary. Those that werenât FOR Trump are simply not important to this country or to her.
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From now on I will refer to Trump as Minority President Trump or MPT. I hope others will join me. That will really get him on Twitter.
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Since when is âlock her upâ and Build the wall" a economic message? Please come back and tell us that your campaign âconnectedâ with voters in 4 yearsâŚ
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KAC is a lying piece of filth.
However, with âno pathâ Villagers now blazing new heights of Trumpian sycophancy KAC will be celebrated as a saintly typeâŚ
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âHow about, itâs Hillary Clinton, she doesnât connect with people? How about, they have nothing in common with her?â
Sure, Kelly Anne. These middle-class white voters in flyover country clearly had more in common with the NYC billionaire that lives in a gilded tower in Midtown Manhattan.
I hate her with the heat of a thousand suns. There is nothing more disrespectful than lying to somebodyâs face, particularly when both of you know itâs lying.
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In my opinion, we need to get past the recount fever, thinking it is going to change the outcome. We need to start focusing on the fight ahead and make sure we donât let moments like the one here get by without getting the right message out, as was missed last night. There is only a finite amount of energy by any mass of people and it should be spent, not looking backward in an effort that will not change the present, but looking forward in an attempt to affect the future in a more positive way.
We need to mobilize. We need to get someone in the leadership position that understands the entire big picture. It needs to be a full time job. It needs to get out there everyday to shine the bright light on the cockroaches that know they will get away with all they intend to do, if there is no light.
We get nowhere looking in the rear view mirror.
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Serious question â did Kelly Anne actually deny that her campaign provided a platform for white supremacists? The article doesnât make that clear. It appears she went to straight to her diversion.
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Welcome to KAC. This has been her mode of operation since long before she joined the campaign.
These two things are not mutually exclusive.
Are you denying that a campaign that doubled down on the rhetoric on racism, sexism, bigotry, misogynism and xenophobia had nothing to do with T***pâs narrow victories in a handful of states?
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I agree, with a modest caveat: It is important to deal with a failure to ensure that it is not repeated.
What was done wrong? Was it the candidate? Was it the message? Is it something more fundamental?
In my opinion, the Democratic âidentity politicsâ is partially to blame. The Democrats have chosen to support illegal immigrants. This is a huge mistake. The Democrats have stopped helping ordinary people - look at the financial crisis of 2009-2012, and count how many homes were lost to foreclosure that Obama promised to help save. Obamacare is a disaster and failure. Why is that?
We need to move forward, but simply doubling down on the practices of the last 4 years will not work.