Discussion for article #233606
OâReilly is so caught up in his own bravado that the fails to see the disconnect between his statement that people were killed and the fact that they couldnât get that information out of the military dictatorship. So which is it Bill ⊠either you couldnât get the information or people were killed (which you stated as fact)? And that, ladies and gentlemen is the least of his âmis-speaks.â
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Billo Lied.
Nobody died.
Heâll fight this forever and a day.
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Clearly OâReilly was thwacked by the head end of an errant fox stole, a London Fog belt buckle or a flying peso.
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That footage didnât look any worse than the average sports riot you get about a hundred times a year in the US.
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Mother Jones has video of him lying about the riot/protest in an interview.
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I think people are missing the point. He said he was in a war zone. He wasnât. He lied. Whether the situation was dangerous or not is irrelevant. Nobody doubts that the situation Brian Williams was in was dangerous. It was that he lied. Same thing here.
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The main difference is that OâReilly works for Fox, so he get away with any old lie he wants. Nobody at Fox is ever going to hold him accountable, so heâs going to keep the job. Fox viewers are too stupid to care whether heâs a liar or not.
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Perhaps the time has come to examine the possibility that OâReilly actually has no idea where he was or what he was doing.
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The video plainly shows that Buenos Aires was as much of a combat zone as my war torn home town of Oakland, California during the open combat phase of Occupy Oakland. Rubber bullets, tear gas, it was all there: total warfare.
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One is more likely to get fired at Fox for telling the truth.
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Oral-ly embellished at best, lied at worst, but watching him lose his phony grace is comedy.
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Doesnât Fox still maintain that Bill OâReillyâs show is an âentertainment showâ rather than a ânews showâ, and thus has no responsibility to journalistic ethics or need to fact-check or make on-air corrections? That used to be how they hand-waved off every inaccuracy that came from their âcommentatorsââ mouths.
Setting aside the fact that comedy shows have a better track record with factual reporting than OâReilly and his ilk, I suspect we are headed for a re-statement of how Fox excuses lies and exaggerations.
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There are some choice Bill-O quotes here where he trumps up his âcombatâ experience in the Falklands war:
Here is a pretty good one:
OâREILLY: I hear all the time, OK, OâReilly, you never were in the military so you canât comment on Iran or Iraq or Afghanistan. And I mean, thatâs insane. And then, of course, my comeback is gee, I missed you in El Salvador. Maybe you were there in Morizan when I was there but I didnât see you. And then in the Falklands War, I just didnât see you in Buenos Aires or Montevideo. I was there, but I didnât see you. So then I can knock that down, because Iâve seen the combat up close and personal. I didnât have a gun, I had a pen. Now, Iâm not bragging about that. But Iâm setting the record straight that experience is what tells the tale in journalism and it tells the tale in politics as well. That there is a record and I didnât serve in the military, but if I want to challenge a war hero on anything Iâm going to darn well challenge him, as long as itâs policy.
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This is a statement of fact, and is not to, in any way, be interpreted as snark or a gag.
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Give Brian Williams his job back. Heâs biggest exaggeration is far closer to the truth than OâReillyâs most conservative take on his coverage of the protests in Argentina.
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Heavens! I wonât ask you to research a local or national TV ânews showâ that displays a responsibility to journalistic ethics because your family will never see you again. National ânewsâ is generally President-centric and weather-heavy with occasional forays into national sports, celebrity hijinks and medical panics unless war or terror wipes the board of everything but crawling news tickers. Local TV news, if it survived in your town, is younger, paid less and occupied with police blotter crime, weather, rush-hour traffic, pets and local angles on the latest national TV panic. Local TV news is also seeing the return of the vague but no less mind-controlling âleading the wayâ, âon your sideâ, âat the speed of lifeâ or âworking for youâ local news âimage campaignâ after vanishing for a decade. Thank God someoneâs putting the money where it belongs againâŠPR.
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Billo continues to be an incurable lesion in his own mindâŠ
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It is fun watching Billo construct his defense., Heâs using the same tactics that work so well on his show, where he is in control. On his show, when someone challenges him, he can just cut their mike or call them a pinhead. But out here in the real world, there is time to fact check, and Bill is having a hard time with the facts. He keeps saying he never said he was on the Falkland Islands, but people keep finding video of him saying he was in the war zone there. He keeps saying he saw people mowed down in Argentina, but somehow, no one else was aware of any fatalities. He says he reported from a village in El Salvador that was totally decimated, but his video shows lots of people, even kids.
Maybe he has convinced himself that all of what he says is true. But then there are the facts, and they donât match up with Billâs words, and that is a problem.
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The line, âthey start to believe their own publicityâ didnât become a clichĂ© by sleeping with a producer.
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