Discussion: Oregon Guv Says She'll Refuse To Send Troops To Southern Border If Asked

Historian here loving it that ā€œstateā€™s rightsā€ is going to come back and bite these racist traitors in the ass.

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Good for you, Governor Brown!

This is just another load of grand-standing B.S. from the spoiled-toddler-in-chief. Trying to stoke fear among the moronic minority that constitute his ā€œbase.ā€ ā€œLook, look,ā€ he screams, ā€œA caravan of impoverished, hungry BROWN people! We must send the military to the border to protect us from them. Never mind that theyā€™re 1200 miles south. Fear them!ā€ And his base does.

And the peckerwoods Ducey in Arizona, and Abbott in Texas will probably go along with the charade.

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Red state governors, beware.
ā€“Make sure Trump pays you before you send your troops to guard the border.
ā€“Find out what accommodations and logistics have been set up in advance.
ā€“Make sure your people receive proper training and know how to co-ordinate with federal authorities.

Iā€™m sure Iā€™ve left stuff out, but you get the idea. Your political future is tied to Trump. Have fun.

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Great tweet Gov. Brown.

I have a theory about trumpā€™s wall business.

I think Putin is trying force trump to build a wall for Putinā€™s revenge. Revenge for when Putin was a KGB agent in East Berlin when that wall fell and he felt Russia and certainly himself were humiliated by it so he wants to humiliate USA for the same thing.

I base my theory on my familiarity of how narcissists operate and their love of humiliating others.

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Oregon Gov. Kate Brown

I wonder if at any other time two contiguous states had governors with the same surname.

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A very elegant Go Fuck Yourself to Dear Leader.

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And what exactly will be their roleā€¦ just walking around the dessert, having a cook out, sleeping under the stars, etc as they will not be armed and have no clear mission.

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Unarmed targets for bad hombres?

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So what poor sap has to tell Trump the National Guard isnā€™t really national? Itā€™s controlled at the state level by the Governor.

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Excellent.

Spankyā€™s gonna go ballistic.

Anyone wanna start a Sparky nickname pool? ā€œNot so great Kateā€? ā€œCoward Kateā€???

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Sign me up!

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Yeah, I just heard about the ā€˜wonā€™t be armedā€™ bit.

Trump wants to arm teachers, but not trained soldiers. Our ā€˜stable geniusā€™ president.

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Would like to see the other follow suit.

Can Brown block out of state guardsmen from coming into California?

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Very few people knew that. Of course very few people know much of anything, if weā€™re talking about one particular very few people.

Interesting theory, that. But with an ape like Trump I tend to think myself that he sensed people didnā€™t like them Messicans when they looked at the McDonaldā€™s menu or heard ā€œOprima el numero dosā€ and thought they were in some Twilight Zone episode where people in other countries speak a whole different language from them. So in his utterly concrete, slow-moving mind he thought Durr, we can build a wall, that will keep them out ayup ayup ayup. He thinked it up all by his big grownup self IMHO.

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do I recall hearing Wiley say that was one of the Cambridge Analytica suggestions for his campaign, that Trump was surprised at how big the response was the first time he tried itā€¦

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Guard and Reserve deployments are hard.

Despite the laws you risk losing your job; your income drops significantly; lenders and creditors mostly ignore your status; families are stressed; etc. Benefits for Guard and Reserve are nearly non-existent compared to Active Duty. In addition your MOS may not make you suitable for this kind of mission.

She made the right call.

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Trump: State Rights do not apply to Oregon.
FOX: Oregon is not even a state.

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And there you go. The first governor to refuse to disrupt the lives of constituents for a political dog and pony show pretending to solve a problem that does not exist. Hopefully more governors will follow this lead.

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It would make sense. Heā€™d just yammer and see how the room liked it.

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