Once it has been consecrated during a mass, the “wafer”, now called a “host”, is believed to be the real Body of Christ by Catholics. Agree or disagree, it is what it is.
Once done, I don’t think that they can be subsequently unconsecrated.
I’ve wondered why the funny clothes for priestly type folk. I mean no disrespect There must be history behind the pointy hat The cloth around the neck I have had explained as “vestments…a sign of office”. But the robes and pointy hat??
The miter symbolizes a crown, and the bishop’s authority over a diocese. They get progressively fancy going up the chain of command.
Some of us are not Catholic. Others are not Christians. For myself I have no idea why a man would wear a pointy hat like that nor do I know why it would be necessary. Certainly Jesus did not wear such a thing nor did any other 1st century person. I do not post this meaning to be disrespectful.
I need to do some research to learn where these vestments originated and what the meaning is.
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Much like how you can draw a stick figure and write “Muhammed” above it, and be killed (or at least threatened with death) for it. Similar level of sanity.
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Oh for Allah’s sake.
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Headline on Fox would have read “Archbishop worships Satan.”
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turns into an actual piece of Jesus somewhere between tongue and tummy. [/quote] Wouldn’t that make them human cannibals?? or did I miss something in the translation?
Personally, I am not ignorant of Catholic dogma, but I don’t believe in any of it. But your accusation of limited juvenile humor- that hurts.
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The “Encyclopèdie”, the main work of the French Enlightenment, had, of course, an article on the eucharist. And it simply pointed the reader toward the article on cannibalism. And I am NOT making this up.
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Why’d they drop the lawsuit?
Wasn’t Daniel Webster on retainer for these cases?
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It’s the lawsuit part that I find really weird. You can condemsn them to everlasting perdition, or you can file a police report, but it’s hard to see the kind of damage that a court could compensate from the defiling of a wafer. (Ignoring, of course, the “if you’re so damn omnipotent, doesn’t that make whatever happens to the wafer your will” argument)
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My wife, who was raised Catholic told me that one of the Nuns who taught her in Jr. High told the kids not to chew the wafer, because if they did, the wafer would bleed.
I realize that millions of people take transubstantiation quite literally, but from my perspective as an “orthodox” agnostic, it make no more sense than Mormon eschatology, for example.
If a large number, a majority even, of people believe in something that is incontrovertibly daft, does that make them “normative”? And, if a few other people from the same community recognize the reality of the situation, does that make the latter insane?
Because that is how we non-believers are often treated.
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They unconsecrate churches, they can unconsecrate a wafer.
There’s nothing in the Bible that says you can’t unconsecrate something.
As a recovering Pokie that flat out floored me!
Boomer Sooner however…
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Though it does occur to me that there’s been certain advances in music videos since then 