To which I say: You lie.
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if only the media had bothered to say the same thing
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Just don’t call them cages.
Some people don’t know a chain-link dormitory wall when they see one.
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That picture, stories about specific parents and kids being separated, and interviews with the head of the ACLU who is working on these cases all make me literally cry. I sometimes still cannot believe that we have become so callous as to do this to children.
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Late term abortions almost always mean on of two things: you’ve been trying to get an abortion since you discovered the pregnancy, but your state puts so many razor-wire roadblocks in the way that this is how long it took, or you really, really wanted a child but fate dealt you a fetus that is going to die in horrible pain instead.
Sometimes I wish I were religious so that I could be confident that the people who support these bills would burn in hell for eternity. Because that’s what they’re doing to infants.
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my wife and youngest son would not be alive today had this bill existed 10 years ago when we lived in Ohio.
the self righteous would have sentenced her to death from a ectopic pregnancy for which the only viable solution was use of abortion inducing drugs, and even then the whole thing was sketchy
the forced birth folks seem to think of abortion as a birth control choice, for those who have been forced into a life/death decision, the “choice” is mindbogglingly brutal
I grieve to this day for my lost children (there was more than one ectopic pregnancy), but would have it no other way than to provide utmost privacy to those who must decide, it’s not my life being impacted, I, and others, should have no say
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I’ve been shocked by some of the calls to talk shows on EWTN, THE voice of conservative Catholicism–husbands tearfully relating the story of their wives who could lose their life in a problem pregnancy. The men are invariably told that they and their children must endure the loss of their wife and mother if it comes because this is God’s will and two wrongs don’t make a right. This is so deeply reactionary, it suggests that you should avoid building the bridge because the flood is God’s will. if only these people would keep their ironclad convictions to themselves…rather than trying to impose them on everybody.
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'Airy sleeping place with firm support for your back"?
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Good job Ohio! You voted these cretins into office. Hope women have stocked up on hangars.
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They won’t. In the intervening decades, church members take pride in out-of-wedlock pregnant daughters who do not get abortions. They’re happy to be raising their own grandchildren because their so-carefully-taught girls go out and do it with the handyman. There is no morality among them anymore, just the “morality” of forcing females to reproduce at all costs, including the future of those females.
Sherrod Brown is from Ohio. I’m sure he agrees with the majority of the citizens there (and across the country), rather than the Republicans in the state legislature.
I’m not religious either. Though the following is from a testimony of a Catholic couple who chose to terminate due to their baby’s heart condition being incompatible with life, and it very much affected me.
Our priest told us that he believed we were not choosing our son’s death, only choosing the timing of his death in order to spare him a great deal of suffering. Something he said that brought us great comfort was “God knows what is in your hearts.” God knows our choice was based on mercy and compassion. Who would better understand our hearts than God, who made the choice for His own Son to die?
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One need hardly add that there will indeed be a court fight over this unconstitutional measure, and it will be costly to Ohio, the public, and the plaintiffs.
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Wasn’t there just a heartbeat act struck down somewhere else? They keep popping up like roaches.
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They just can’t let it go, and until the Supreme Court rules otherwise, all of these measures are doomed to be overturned or stopped by the courts. Of course, given the present makeup of SCOTUS, Roe v. Wade may well be superseded or overruled. We’ll see.
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Life begins at 40.
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These fanatical right-to-lifers need to face a reality. If abortion is outlawed, women faced with unwanted pregnancies will still seek abortions. Some with the means to do so will travel to places where they can get a safe abortion, even if it means travel to another state of abroad. Others will seek competent abortions by sympathetic physicians, both of whom will risk criminal prosecution and the ruination of their, and their families lives. Finally, the more desperate, and typically impoverished or victimized, will seek an abortion from a back-room charlatan and as a result face life-threatening injury or die. In the worst case, the woman will give birth to an unwanted child for which she in incapable of providing care and who will subsequently be passed on to foster care, and very possibly, due to lack of support, become indigent and/or criminal, or die. The empirical evidence of these alternatives goes back more that a century. In virtually all of these cases, the consequences for the mother, the unborn child, the unwanted child, and/or the medical professional will be catastrophic.
The only moral alternative to this is to make abortion less and less an alternative to unwanted pregnancies by making meaningful sex-education, contraceptive instruction and contraceptive products freely available, including “morning after” contraception, and by continuing to make legal, and safe abortion available based upon the discretion of the mother in consultation with her physician, her conscience, and as appropriate her family and spiritual advisor.
The bottom line is that the government and religious zealots, who have no “skin” in the immediate and specific issues and situation of the individual woman, need to stay the hell out of this entire, and extraordinarily personal decision.
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All women in Ohio give birth THEN give Mr DeWine the baby to bring up .
He’s been my go-to candidate for POTUS. Now I’m waiting for him to say something out loud and for public consumption about this travesty going down in the state he represents. I’m afraid he won’t and so will no longer be my go-to candidate for POTUS.
Anyway, this is unconstitutional on its face. They think the Supremes, now stacked with wingers, will back their play. I hope it doesn’t shake out like that. Scary times!
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