Discussion: Obama: US 'Will Not Relent' In Islamic State Campaign

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I hope when the President gets back he addresses the nation on this because there is way too much anxiety on the part of folks who don’t bother to really get informed and just hear the soundbites and the over the top coverage.

Also, if anyone has heard of Malcom Nance, you might want to read this interview. If you haven’t you should also read it. He is actually an expert on ISIS and terrorism. It is a very enlightening interview.

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Thanks Chammy —

Chunk and Stephie both continued the nonsense. Stephie even talked polls, saying a “majority” against Obama, but didn’t show new numbers opting for the midweek poll with the 5% margin of error, an error margin, like today’s ‘new’ number, that didn’t make the inflamed, Trump-phoner-filled air.

You are welcome. I had been seeing him a lot on MSNBC and wondered where he came from but apparently he’s been doing intelligence work for 30 years

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What is so insane is who are these people - they have no information on which to base their opposition except for the sensational coverage which doesnt bother to explain that we have been dealing with ISIS and it is going to a long slog. Shit, we can’t even stop terrorist attacks here in this country so how do we control an enemy in the middle east. Over the last year how many terrioist attacks did we have in this country - too many to count but we don’t call it terrorism - just some bad guys with guns.

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Thanks for that, he was completely right about the approach needed, I’m sure he has a lot more interesting thoughts about this.

As to Obama speaking, if this country ever needed a public history lesson from “the professor” it would be now.

A poll, in the best of times and accurately reported, gives an illusion of information, as a smell gives a hint of looming dinner. A smaller error rate, keeping my dinner analogy, means one can narrow the yummy smell down to, let’s say, yeast rolls as opposed to a more generalized dinner smell. The greater the error margin means your increasingly less sure it’s dinner you are smelling. Media now make headlines on the error margin as they did this week to claim (create?) majority opposition to the President as well as majority support for anti refugee positions.
Why 21st century media does this, really, is a mystery and I, for one, would really enjoy hearing their reasoning.

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“The most powerful tool we have is to say we are not afraid,” Obama said

That ship has sailed, Mr. President. We’re terrified, for no discernible reason, and we are determined to overreact in the worst ways imaginable.

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Money and ratings.

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You’re welcome. I sure hope he is advising the President.

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I agree with the President, al -Assad has to go. Also, he should call out these terrorist who call themselves Islamic, instead should be calling them terrorist that pretend to be Islamic. The Islamic religion don’t preach keeping people as slaves and dealing in drugs selling them on the black market, and committing suicide to kill people. He should ask the leaders of every Islamic country to stand up and call out ISIS or ISIL and every other terrorist group who do evil in the name of being an Islamist. Muslim clerics should disown all these terrorist groups and call them what they are which is just a bunch of groups that are using the Islamic religion to further their real goal which is furthering the riches of a few leaders at the top who advertise terror to recruit people to keep their business of slavery, and selling illegal drugs going. These groups are more like a Mafia or conglomerate that promotes terror.

A much-needed interview with a guy who knows what he is talking about. Thank you for the link chammy. Nance’s books sound worth checking out.

The key part from the interview…

Q Your books argue that we’re losing the war of ideas with ISIS and al Qaeda, and we need to start winning.

The central question is how to disrupt their ideology. To this point, we haven’t made a serious attempt. They are beating us on social media. They are more skilled at indoctrination. We need to offer a counter-ideology that goes after their cult variant of Islam.

And how the other side, with the generous help of the MSM, is pushing hard in the very opposite direction to their political advantage is just horrifying.

Q How do we counter that?

We call it de-linking true Islam from their version of Islam by calling upon the Muslim to world to recognize that ISIS is not Islamic, but anti-Islam. And believe me, Muslims have no problem with this.

Regarding this, the other day a twitter user called ProudAmericanMuslim (who now reveals his real name, Tayyib M. Rashid) tweeted this (which went viral), and in his reply to a comment he posted Al Islam’s website, which devotes a section to the topic of Islam and terrorism. I find it educational and helpful.

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I ordered the book. Giving one as a gift also

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I have also seen some interviews with American Muslims living in Michigan and Ohio. Some still follow Islam and some are christians. These folks are scared to death because of the horrible over the top rhetoric coming from the republican presidential candidates and who can blame them. I am so ashamed

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You all might want to check these things out to as relates to Nance

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The problem on the political Right is that they are a bunch of bigots. The problem on the political Left is that we can too easily become a bunch of naifs. When we say that Islam is not about slavery, that is demonstrably untrue in much if the Muslim world. When we say that the terrorists are claiming to be Muslim, but aren’t, we are ignoring the fact that the money and support for the terrorists is coming from Islamic governments, and that they created the terrorist groups, from Al Queda through ISIS. Every time we try to ignore reality, we are just handing ammunition to the bigots on the Right.

Authoritative voice of reason. Thanks!