Discussion: Obama On Killing Of Muslim Students: No One Should Be Targeted For 'How They Worship'

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I wish he were free to say what he probably wants to say but can’t. We are hardly one in this country. The repukes prove that everyday.

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President Obama’s remarks to be construed as anti-christianinist by Fox News in 3…2…

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Well, in general yes. But if your way of worshiping involves throwing gay men off buildings, or setting people on fire, etc. sorry, but all bets are of in those cases.

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Perhaps this will quiet the person at Daily Kos that accused and any that agreed that Obama is being anti-Muslim for not out of the gate making a statement about this senseless killing.
Though I do suspect there will be many that will say his tone was not right, he was not angry enough and that he did it too late.

As for Pres. Obama’s statement, I think it was fair, given that we don’t know all the facts about exactly why this guy killed the three individuals (it could very well be a hate crime…or the guy is a gun nut that wanted to prove he was big and badd). Whichever the case, it was wrong for them to be gunned down and I feel so sorry for their families and community. I hope what the president said provides a little bit of comfort during this sad time.

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RU serious?..go read the NYT article, details of lynchings that occurred in the US after Jim Crow…throngs of middle class Americans in their “Sunday Get-Ups”,cutting off the genitals and other body parts of African American men, before they’re publicly lynched and then burned! Let’s be humbled and see through the vacuous contents of American Exceptionalism - diabolic wickedness is not limited to Arab terrorist or Boko Haram.

WTF are you blathering on about? None of what you posted has any relevance to my statement that if “how you worship” involves committing violence on others it is not out of bounds to be actively opposed, up to and including use of force?

Take a deep breath and re-read what I wrote and stop your hyperbolic leaps of crazy.

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Blathering huh?..go see how religion was used to buttress this horrible acts. The point is simple

Blathering huh?

Yep.

go see how religion was used to buttress this horrible acts. The point is simple

More unhinged blather untethered to what I posted.

there’s a lot of tethering in the contents of my challenge to your original post…

LOL…Your frenzied name calling is not going to nullify your nonsense.

Oh dear. Name calling you say?

What name did I call you?

Be specific.

Yes, the President should’ve went all in and given those Islamists a piece of this mind.

Huh?

Actually it wouldnt be “how they worship” it would be “that they worship”…Just saying

This seems to me like a preventable tragedy. Hicks had no criminal record, and had a permit for a concealed weapon. Yet on more than one occasion, Hicks pointed his gun at people who were not a physical threat to him, and his neighbors felt threatened by him. The instant you point your gun at another person who isn’t endangering you – the police should be called, you should go to jail, and you should never be allowed to own a gun again.

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There is only one reason why the President of the United States needed to comment on these horrible murders (as opposed to other horrible murders) before the facts of the case have been established. The reason is that the Republican Party has been actively engaged in anti-Muslim hate propaganda for partisan political purposes during roughly the past six years. Therefore, whatever the facts of this case turn out to be, the relatives of the victims, the Muslim-American population generally, and Muslims in other countries, will suspect and fear that the murders are related to that propaganda. Therefore, President Obama reaffirmed the message of President Washington:

“. . . the Government of the United States gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens . . .”

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I don’t think this is a matter of “OR,” it’s a matter of “AND.”

The parking disputes, the noise issues (Hicks pointed a gun at them once after they awoke his wife with an overly-loud game of Risk), and their irrational religious beliefs all contributed to Hicks’ seething rage. Whether these murders fall under the legal definition of a hate crime is a relatively minor point. Hicks will never leave prison, and violence is not an acceptable response to any Hicks’ conflicts with his neighbors.

Here’s hoping.

Agreed.

It’s not a minor point to their family.

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“no one in the United States of America should ever be targeted” for their religion.

As he well knows from his 2008 election and since.

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